Re: [orca-list] Your thoughts on item position and count in menus?



From what you write, I think Orca's current approach is the more useful. That opinion might change if there is some advantages to the subgrouping, especially if things are added to the ones that presently have just one item, but maybe not even then. Thanks for considering.

Al

On 04/17/2015 06:48 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hey all.

Consider the following menu (it's Thunderbird's Help menu)

Help Contents
Troubleshooting Information
Release Notes
Restart with Add-ons Disabled
About Thunderbird

There are five items, and Orca currently presents their position and
count (for those of you who have that option enabled) as:

Help Contents. 1 of 5
Troubleshooting Information. 2 of 5
Release Notes. 3 of 5
Restart with Add-ons Disabled. 4 of 5
About Thunderbird. 5 of 5

I assume you all agree that this is correct, given the information I
have provided. But it turns out this menu has non-navigable separators
in them. What I see on screen is:

Help Contents
Troubleshooting Information
Release Notes
<separator>
Restart with Add-ons Disabled
<separator>
About Thunderbird

Each separator appears as a low-contrast, thin, but still visible
divider which visually groups things. With this information in mind, is
what Orca presents currently correct? Or should Orca instead say:

Help Contents. 1 of 3
Troubleshooting Information. 2 of 3
Release Notes. 3 of 3
Restart with Add-ons Disabled. 1 of 1
About Thunderbird. 1 of 1

Please let me know what you think. Thanks!
--joanie
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