Re: [orca-list] talking login managers

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I am not using Debian, but I get Braille but no audio out of gdm3.  I
have speech-dispatcher as a system  wide only program.  When gnome
starts, it starts pulseaudio, and without  pulse, certain things go
silent, although orca still works.

Mike Ray <mike raspberryvi org> wrote:

> Hello Kendal,
>
> Just today I have successfully got Debian 7.6 Net Install going with
> speech in both the desktop and the console.
>
> It uses GDM3.  And I think the trick is that Debian creates a user
> called Debian-gdm.  I had to add Debian-gdm to the pulse-access and
> audio groups to make it work and also add my ordinary user to pulse-access.
>
> When GDM3 starts it spawns speech-dispatcher
>
> Now I have speech-dispatcher configured for alsa in both system and user
> configs and despite this, pulse still starts but is not getting in the way.
>
> I also deleted anything with 'pulse' in the name from /usr/share/alsa/*
>
> Problem I suppose is that GDM3 i s bit heavy.  I will try the same
> tricks with lightdm at some point.
>
> Odd thing is that when I log in on GDM3, Orca says 'Goodbye' followed by
> 'Welcome to Orca' again.  Never seen that before.
>
> Mike
>
> On 21/09/2014 10:23, kendell clark wrote:
> > hi all
> > I've been trying to come up with a talking login manager to put in the
> > sonar mate beta images, but have run into a number of problems. Rather
> > than write a long email, I'll keep it short. I know of three login
> > managers that are possible to use with orca at the moment. Gdm, lightm
> > with the gtk greeter, and lightdm with the unity greeter. Either one
> > of these would do nicely for mate, except that gdm pulls in at least
> > half, and maybe more like 3 quarters of gnome, the lightdm unity
> > greeter pulls in lots of ubuntu patched packages from the aur and
> > makes removing a pita, because it rips out most of gtk3 and gtk2,
> > taking with it other apps. lightdm gtk3 greeter will speak but orca
> > triggers a kernel trap after you log in, making it impossible to start
> > it. i'm looking for alternative login managers. Can anyone who knows a
> > lot more about the accessibility stack than I do clue me in on what
> > has to be in place for orca to be able to speak a login screen? I know
> > the basics, a speech-dispatcher configuration and an orca
> > configuration need to be present or generated, but much beyond that
> > I"m clueless. Why can't there be a default keyboard shortcut for all
> > login  managers that when pressed, starts orca? I've also seen some
> > login managers where in order to get orca started you had to enter
> > manual kill commands for pulseaudio, speech-dispatcher before logging
> > in or orca wouldn't start. Can anyone explain this? I'm probably going
> > to have to contact devs of other managers to get them to add
> > accessibility to their managers, and I need more info other than, uh
> > hi, orca doesn't work with your login manager. thanks. I'm trying to
> > understand how all this accessibility stuff works in general, so I can
> > be more helpful to developers when filing bugs, asking for orca
> > support, etc.I've done some googling, but the few docs I've been able
> > to find are very much out of date, usually dating back to gnome 2
> > days. Learning the accessibility stack would help me diagnose issues
> > if I come across them, such as the strange lags I get when alt
> > tabbing, etc that no one else gets but me. Very tired now, so I think
> > I'll catch a nap.
> > Thanks
> > Kendell clark
> >
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> > The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>
> -- 
> Michael A. Ray
> Analyst/Programmer
> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>
> The box said: 'install Windows XP, 7 or better'. So I installed Linux
>
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