Re: [orca-list] orca to read latex



Emacspeak provides an environment for authoring latex content, so it has
to support a literal reading of latex markup. The author of Emacspeak,
is Dr. T.V. Raman, currently a scientist at Google Research, whose Ph.D
was in mathematics. Your best source of particular information would be
the Emacspeak list, where T.V. actively participates.

I do think it's your best option given your desire for literal markup
access. In case it's a concern, I would add that you can run Emacspeak in a Linux vm on any
convenient platform. In addition to my native Linux computers, I have a
VMware vm on a Macbook expressly for running Emacspeak, for example.

hth

Janina


Paula Estrella writes:
Hello, thanks for all the replies! Actually the students need to read
content written in latex, in particular study material that the
teachers write in latex and then publish in pdf, but the pdfs are, as
you point out, not a good format for screen readers, that's why
students try to understand the contents from the latex source. And by
literally I mean that latex code gets read literally, for ex. $x \gt
z$ is read "dollar sign x backslash g t z dollar sign" and students
have to mentally reconstruct what that means but if it were read "x
gretaller than z" it would be easier

Does emacspeak read latex in the same way (what I call literally) or
it produces more natural reading?

Thanks again,
Paula

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Janina Sajka <janina rednote net> wrote:
Yes, for output one would be better served by MathML.

Unfortunatly, I believe the only good MathML readers for blind users are
proprietary applications running MS Windows:

http://www.dessci.com


Browser support for MathML has been going backwards in recent years with
Google pulling support from Blink.

Janina



Alex Midence writes:
Her students are probably trying to read output not input.  I've been there.
It's hard to make out the math in a pdf document created with LaTeX with
screen readers.


On 9/13/2014 7:27 AM, Janina Sajka wrote:
Hi,

You should look at emacspeak for the best speech based access to latex
authoring.

http://emacspeak.sf.net

It provides solid speech support for various tex modes of emacs.

I have also used vim's latex mode with Speakup.

Or, if using refreshable braille display, brltty with either emacs or
vim in a console is probably best.

I'm unaware there's any particular support for latex in blind user
oriented graphical AT such as Orca, and it's not the tool of choise for
emacs and vim.

Janina

Paula Estrella writes:
Hello, I'm new to the list so I apologize if this topic has already
been discussed, in
that case point me to the right threads.

We're trying to assist our blind students in computer science and at
the moment the option chosen is orca but it gets difficult when they
have to read maths in latex, so the question is: is there any orca
module to specifically read latex (in a more natural way than
literally)? if not, do you think it would be too difficult or of any
interest to contribute to orca by developing such a module?

Thanks a lot for any information
Paula Estrella
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Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
                        sip:janina asterisk rednote net
                Email:  janina rednote net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair,  Protocols & Formats     http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
        Indie UI                        http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/



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