Hello,
Today morning I have accidentally stumbled on a little thing which
may help fine tuning automatic focus vs browse mode switching in
orca. Unfortunatelly I don't yet have a proposal but up to now we
have always assumed focusing expandable control on the web should
trigger automatic switch to focus mode. This was inspired by the
navigation in gmail for example and can also be seen for example on
facebook.
Please go trough these two examples, if you can then add your own
experiences and try to recommend what you think is better.
Example 1 Facebook
- Go to facebook.com and login if necessary.
- After logging in, move to the top of the page
- Press the tab key until you hear Sort options collapsed button
focus mode and observe orca is now in focus mode.
- Press the enter key, you will hear something like expanded top
stories. You can then move up and down using your arrow keys in
the menu similar as you can move in the menu of a desktop style
application. This is all fine and appears everything under the
hood is contributing to a pleasant accessibility related
experience.
- Now press the escape button to dismiss the menu, you will hear
sort options collapsed button
- Realize you are still in the focus mode. Press orca+a to
switch to browse mode
- Now press the enter key, you will hear expanded top stories
focus mode. Receiving the same pleasant accessibility related
experience.
Example 2 paypal
- Goto the paypal.com website
- Move to the top of the page by pressing ctrl+home
- Press the tab key several times until you hear buy collapsed
button focus mode and realize orca is now in focus mode
- Press the enter key, you will hear expanded... And now what
you are still in focus mode. It is obviously no longer possible
to navigate using the arrow keys. Pressing the tab key will
switch automatically to browse mode and then you can continue as
normal using whatever method of navigation you like.
I posted these two examples only to ilustrate the scenario. And now
questions.
Is it a good idea to reconsider switching to focus mode onfocusing
expandable controls?
I am afraid this was added because I was requesting making a
particular feature in the gmail app more accessible. However there
are several good reasons I am reconsidering this my self eventhough
it may break some edge cases
- Now Paypal and Facebook both organizations have dedicated
accessibility teams whose members are following developments on
the emerging standards and technologies so I suspect these may
be seen as a valid accessible use cases.
- The way it is implemented currently may introduce a bit of
confusion (see this
José's email).
What do you think?
Is there something to add?
Greetings
Peter
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