Re: [orca-list] Email client [was "Re: Some info on orca"]

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

So, That leaves me to use the command line and not gnome to read mail;
in the command line environment, I use Mutt to read mail and it is
excellent there. It really disappoints me how Mozilla's gecho engine
seems to be riddled with bugs that negatively impact accessibility of
both firefox and thunderbird with Orca. This list bug has been around
for a long time and for that reason, I cannot satisfactorally use
thunderbird to do mail at all. So at the present time, I see no usable
mail client for the Linux desktop right now.

On 1/30/14, Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Regarding inaccurate position being reported after content is added /
> removed to / from the thunderbird message list and even other lists in
> thunderbird I am afraid it's because of the following mozilla bug:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743568
>      Unfortunatelly guys from Mozilla accessibility team appear to have
> difficulties reproducing this issue thus trying to move forward with it.
> Unfortunatelly there is not much community efforts when it comes to
> community support and development for thunderbird on linux either so
> unless some of us affected will get more skills to tackle this we can
> only wait for now I am afraid.
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter
>
> On 30.01.2014 05:35, B. Henry wrote:
> > I have noticed some improvement in the announcement of correct message
> > when browsing the thunderbird message list using Orca 3.10, but it is
> > still not reliable with displayed message header and body in preview pane
> > sometimes being out of sync with msg list.
> > It is almost never completely in sync with orca 3.4.2, and I pretty much
> > stopped using thunderbird for this reason. It takes too long to either
> > jump to msg body with f6 and back or tab and then shift tab to header
> > fields to see what actual message is . I've caused myself problems
> > deleting important mail and moving things to wrong folders more than once
> > when I wasn't double checking everything. In some ways it's even worse
> > with the better but not perfect at all newer Orca as one gets confident
> > that things are displaying correctly. At least on XFCE, or because of
> > newer Orca I get much crisper performance and can check message a lot
> > faster than using the older orca on the unity desktop.
> > Is there a chance of this being addressed any time soon, and is it more on
> > the Orca or t-bird side. I was so happy with thunderbird and orca for the
> > first 2 and a half years of using Linux, but this has been a problem for a
> > year now for me since moving to the Precise based Vinux4.0 and other
> > distros.
> > Regards, and sorry if this is old hat. I just joined the list, but no one
> > ever mentioned to me that this had been discussed much if at all here.
> > Regards, --
> > B.H.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:30:22PM -0600, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > > I use Thunderbird as my email client.
> > >
> > > On 01/27/2014 10:49 AM, Germano Carella wrote:
> > > > Hi to all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm new of gnome and orca.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a blind programmer, I develop in python 2.7 under windows, but I
> > > > would like to begin developing for orca.
> > > >
> > > > Can you provide me some documentation for this job?
> > > >
> > > > I need some info on orca:
> > > >
> > > > 1)I installed debian 7 weezy. How can I enable orca at login screen?
> > > >
> > > > 2)What is a better client mail for orca? I tried evolution, but I can't
> > > > read message list.
> > > >
> > > > 3)It exists some accessible aggregator?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Germano
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > The manual is at
> > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > > --
> > > Christopher (CJ)
> > > chaltain at Gmail
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > orca-list mailing list
> > > orca-list gnome org
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > The manual is at
> > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > _______________________________________________
> > orca-list mailing list
> > orca-list gnome org
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > The manual is at
> > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>
> _______________________________________________
> orca-list mailing list
> orca-list gnome org
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> The manual is at
> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp