Re: [orca-list] Quick key for clickables?

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Yes!  I When a link or clickable comes along, I want to be able to press
enter on it and have it go, also shift-f10 and any other normal keys.
That is what a screen reader is for, in my opinion.

Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:

> Hello,
> I don't have strong preference regarding clickables however I don't
> wish them to be mixed with links or other known roles.
> Unfortunatelly any element can have onclick event registered including
> links, buttons, checkboxes tabs etc. I think for common roles we do
> want to suppress reporting of their onclick event.
>
> Unfortunatelly the other part of your message where you are tallking
> about non performant checks regarding enter and spacebar keys has hit
> me even more.
> As we are currently in a process of testing and trying to come up with
> ideas on how to make the focus vs browse modes paradigm even cooler I
> thought we can get another nice feature into the mix.
> When you are in browse mode and cursor is pointing into a focusable
> interactive control such as tab, entry, text, password, combobox and
> similar you should also be able to activate focus mode by pressing the
> enter key. If you are in a browse mode and something else is under
> your cursor the enter key should get passed throught to the browser or
> do what it is currently set to do I am afraid I don't know all the
> details.
> With the same thing in mind when you are in a focus mode and such
> interactive control like entry, text, combobox, tab etc has the system
> focus pressing esc key would switch to browse mode.
> These are all NVDA features so if you think I am becoming crazy about
> all this please ignore this. Also still this would only make sense
> after options related to auto focus / browse mode triggering are
> included like we are speculating about them in another thread.
> And yeah maybe this is not doable because of possible performance
> issues so perhaps this is last time this is brought up here. The
> conditions are already there we just needs to implement the key
> bindings and their coresponding script. I don't think it would be less
> performant than arrow keys in browse mode.
> Unfortunatelly these are just my wild ideas and they may not be
> accurate enough.
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 12.08.2014 at 19:50 Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hey Jeremy.
> >
> > On 08/12/2014 01:31 PM, Jeremy Lincicome wrote:
> > > Joanie,
> > > I think that having a key for clickables is a great idea. I personally
> > > have no problem with either the 'A' or 'K' keys. One question though.
> > > Will we be able to just press enter or space on them, or will we still
> > > need to do a left click with flat review?
> > At the moment, Orca does not treat Space or Enter as Orca "commands" or
> > things Orca might wish to intercept. And given how often one presses
> > Space or Enter, I don't think we want Orca to start examining those key
> > presses and key releases on the off chance you happen to be in a
> > clickable. That would be non-performant.
> >
> > If we make clickables a separate creature (you navigate to it by A,
> > Shift+A and **not** lump it in with links), then you know you need to
> > simulate a mouse click on it. And if you arrow into it, Orca could
> > announce it as "clickable." Thus if you found it by caret nav, it also
> > would be clear that you need to actually click on clickables. Lastly,
> > the Alt+Shift+A "clickables list" dialog could have an "activate" button
> > so if you used the dialog you would not have to simulate a click.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> > --joanie
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