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Re: [orca-list] How many people us voxin?

I've never had this problem with Voxin. With eSpeak, I've had the
problem where the pitch gets stuck in whatever's used for
capitalization, but this was an Orca problem that has long since been fixed.

On 10/03/13 12:01, Hank Smith, and Seeing-Eye dog Iona wrote:

when I used it when ever it would go in to lock screen mode it would
stay in high pitch mode everything would be higher pitched the only way
to fix this is to restart so I gave upon it.
Hank
On 3/10/2013 8:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I use Voxin. I don't have any problems with it and installing it is just
a matter of downloading one archive file and running one script, at
least on Ubuntu. I also prefer open software and applications, but I am
pretty pragmatic, and I'll use whatever tools are at hand. Although I
use Voxin, I don't rely on it. I have access to eSpeak, and I do use
eSpeak quite a bit as well, so if I did ever have a problem with Voxin,
I'm sure I could switch over to eSpeak without too much trouble.

On 10/03/13 01:58, Steve Holmes wrote:

I generally prefer also to use free as in freedom software as much as
I can while on my Linux systems.  And I do use some proprietary stuff
like on my Mac. However, when it comes to closed proprietary software
that is so old and out of date and unsupported by any developers, you
are left vulnerable.  It amazes me that people can get this old
IBMTTS / Voxin or whatever to work on modern systems at all anymore.

Opinions do vary on this subject but I think having to rely on very
outdated low-level libraries to run software is a really bad idea.  I
for one will never install this software for these reasons.

On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:34 PM, "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea arrl net> wrote:


I agree with Alex.  I will pay gladly for something if it does the
job I need done.

Voxin does a job and very nicely.

For $100.00 I'd want automatic installation and bug fixing releases,
and I would be happy to pay that.

David

On Jan 7, 2013 9:20 PM, "Alex Midence" <alex midence gmail com> wrote:
Ok, that didn't come out right.  I was using iPhone dictation software
and it messed up on what I meant to say.  some clarification:

If you choose not to use voxin, do it for other reasons than citing
any potential unreliability.  Yes, there are bugs but they are not
noticeable.  There are no spontaneous crashes, garbled speech, lags,
delays or anything else like that.  It is clear and responsive and
utterly reliable.  I use it litterally every day for hours and hours
as my primary speech synth at work.  I prefer it to mroe
human-sounding voices like the ones from cepstral or Nuance.  I
certainly find it infinitely preferable to Festival.  IBM did a truly
fantastic job with it.  Now, in Linux, Espeak is available right out
of the box on all the distributions I have tried and it is also clear,
responsive and utterly reliable.  Mr. duddington did a truly wonderful
job on his speech synthesizer.  Add libsonic and it is a real, honest
to goodness speed demon.  I use it on Linux exclusively because Voxin
as Eloquence is known there seems more problematic to install on it
and I am happy with  what is already in place.  When I evaluate any
assistive technology my overarching concern is:

Does it work?

Next to that is:

How easy is it to set up?

then, there's cost:

Can I afford it?

This makes me a bit of a maverick among Linux enthusiasts but, I quite
frankly don't give one single solitary darn about whether or not it's
proprietary.  I am not a programmer.  I am an end user.  If I have to
pay for it with money or time and community participation, it's all
the same to me.  Most important is  usability, reliability, setup, and
affordability.

Thanks.
alex M


On 1/7/13, Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com> wrote:

Ridiculous. I use it every day in a production environment and find it
absolutely reliable. Furthermore I use it in windows which is
notoriously
insecure system. It works great. If you're not going to use it do
not use
its old nature orator call it unreliable because it is not true

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Kyle <kyle4jesus gmail com> wrote:


I don't use Voxin or any of its other various incarnations. One
reason,
although not at all the main reason, is that it's proprietary,
meaning
that there can be absolutely no community participation in its
development. I also don't use it here because I can't stand the
way it
sounds; it literally makes my head hurt. However, the main reason
I don't
use it and can't recommend it for daily use, and possibly the main
reason
you are having problems with it, is the fact that many different
companies
own licenses to cell it, and to call it what they like, but no one
appears
to have the source code, which hasn't even been rebuilt in more
than 10
years. This means that no one has the ability to fix any bugs, no
matter
how much they may want to fix them. It also means that the binary
code,
which was last built probably 12 years ago, depends on horribly
outdated
versions of C libraries and other core system-level code, which are
bundled with Voxin, IBMTTS, TTSynth and other various renamings of
the
same software for compatibility, but run poorly on today's
hardware, and
even have the potential to reintroduce vulnerabilities and/or
security
exploits into your system that were fixed long ago, but may not
yet have
been fixed in the compatibility libraries that are being installed
just to
make Voxin and its relatives speak. In short, if you just want a
toy Linux
box to play around with, Voxin or something similar may be OK, but
avoid
this abandonware like the plague if you want to use it in a
production or
mission-critical environment.

As for eSpeak, I use it every day here on my main box, and it's the
primary speech synthesizer in most distributions, completely
supplanting
Festival and/or Flite over 5 years ago. It is free, open source
software
under the terms of the GPL license, so community participation is
possible
and encouraged. The source code is freely available, so when bugs
crawl
out, they can be squashed by anyone who knows how to squash them.
Because
the source code is available, it is possible to keep eSpeak
updated and
built against the current libraries and system-level code, so that
no old
vulnerabilities, security exploits or crashes will be introduced
in order
to get an old compiled binary working. Furthermore, over the
years, eSpeak
has become one of the best free (as in freedom) speech synthesizers
available, which is capable of running quite responsively on more
hardware
than almost all other speech synthesizers, both free and
proprietary. Hope
this helps.
~Kyle
http://kyle.tk/
-- 
"Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?"
Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie"
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