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Re: [orca-list] XFCE and orca

Hi Peter,
i just tested that by launching xfce then opening the run dialog and entered sd-say hello. no reply. then entered espeak hello which gave me the word hello back. i also launched orca. then orca said welcome to orca and then there was silence. 

i then tried to hit alt+f1 to invoke the main menu which also didn't talk.

haven't checked with ssh yet.

greetings,
simon

Am 23.06.2013 04:52, schrieb Peter Vágner:

Hello,
As Robert has said I am not sure where to put the enviromment variable
if you are starting xfce via display manager.
However related to sound you should check whether pulse audio starts
along with xfce, what is speech-dispatcher set to use as its output
module and then continue from there.
Are you able to start xfce and login to this machine via ssh from the
other one to check these things?

Greetings

Peter

On 22.06.2013 16:30, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:


hi peter,


let's try that again and sending it to the list.

i started xfce using the normal lightdm logon screen.
the .xinitrc just contains the line i wrote below.
there was also no .xinitrc in /etc/skel/ so i created an empty one.

seems sd-say hello doesn't output anything.
espeak hello fortunately does.


greetings,
simon

Am 22.06.2013 10:24, schrieb Peter Vágner:
Hello,
How are you starting xfce4? Have you created ~/.xinitrc file from
scratch or you have just added a line like you have described into it?
After starting orca by running it via xfce4 app finder using alt+f2 can
you try to press alt+f2 again and try to run spd-say hello or something
in order to test whether this is orca or speech dispatcher what has just
crashed?

Greetings

Peter

On 21.06.2013 22:54, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
hi Peter,

I just tried that on my ubuntu 13.04 machine.
i got xfce 4 to install but ffter boting it and then hitting alt+f2
and entered orca then orca seems to have crashed.
welcome to orca was announced but i don't know if orca really started
completely or not. after that i tried hitting alt+f1 and there was no
speech. i also tried insert+space to bring up the orca settings dialog
which also didn't come up.


before that i created this file:
~/.xinitrc


with the following content:
export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge


any suggestions?

greetings,
simon


Am 19.06.2013 16:00, schrieb Peter Vágner:
Hello,
I am also using xfce on one of my machines and I have got a lot of apps
working in there.
So let's assume you have got pure text based arch linux installed and
you would like to get xfce installed and try to make it accessible.
Here is what I would suggest:
- install xfce4 and xfce4-goodies groups of packages.
- If you have no ~/.xinitrc file then copy the default one into your
home directory
cp /etc/skel/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc
- edit ~/.xinitrc with your favorite text editor. Make sure the line
exec startxfce4
is there and is not commented out.
Before this line add another line saying
export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
- Install orca what will also install speech-dispatcher and other
dependencies.
- Now either change speech-dispatcher configuration so it will use alsa
as its output module or install pulseaudio.
You can edit /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf
- At this point you should be able to start xfce by executing startx .
As it starts up you will be greeted by the pannel configuration which is
not accessible. You can escape or alt+f4 out of it and then press alt+f2
to run xfce4 app finder and type in orca to launch it.
- If orca starts first thing you should do is that you will press alt+f1
to inwoke the popup menu, choose applications -> settings ->
accessibility and enable screen reader checkbox.

I haven't installed gdm in order to get accessible login screen because
it installs a lot of gnome dependencies. Instead I have installed SLiM
and set it to autologin.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM#Autologin

In order to make the experience better I have installed the following
gnome and lxde packages:
polkit-gnome, evince, file-roller, pcman-fm.
QT4 apps can also be made accessible while running xfce4 you have to
instal qt-at-spi from AUR and restart the machine in order to get it
working.

xfce4-terminal is accessible, it has even keyboard shortcut for
select all.
Mousepad what is xfce text editor is working verry well too.
For playing multimedia you can install vlc, totem or DeaDBeeF for music.
DeaDBeeF is just partially accessible but it's avesome.

Firefox, Thunderbird and libre-office are all working verry well.
In the alt+F1 menu -> settings -> prefered applications I have changed
default filemanager from thunar to pcman-fm.

Hopefully this is usefull

Greetings

Peter
On 19.06.2013 15:04, Dave Hunt wrote:
I'm sure ou can use LO, Firefox, and other popular titles with XFCE
and LXDE.  There's a version of Sonar with LXDE.  The panel is
inaccessible, but the menus and configurators seem to work with orca.
I know you're not a Ubuntu user, but Jonathan's Sonar LXDE can show
you how it's done.  I think it's a matter of setting a couple of
environment variables and/or configuration switches to get LXDE
talking?




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