Re: [orca-list] XFCE and orca

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
As Robert has said I am not sure where to put the enviromment variable 
if you are starting xfce via display manager.
However related to sound you should check whether pulse audio starts 
along with xfce, what is speech-dispatcher set to use as its output 
module and then continue from there.
Are you able to start xfce and login to this machine via ssh from the 
other one to check these things?

Greetings

Peter

On 22.06.2013 16:30, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
> hi peter,
>
>
> let's try that again and sending it to the list.
>
> i started xfce using the normal lightdm logon screen.
> the .xinitrc just contains the line i wrote below.
> there was also no .xinitrc in /etc/skel/ so i created an empty one.
>
> seems sd-say hello doesn't output anything.
> espeak hello fortunately does.
>
>
> greetings,
> simon
>
> Am 22.06.2013 10:24, schrieb Peter Vágner:
> Hello,
> How are you starting xfce4? Have you created ~/.xinitrc file from
> scratch or you have just added a line like you have described into it?
> After starting orca by running it via xfce4 app finder using alt+f2 can
> you try to press alt+f2 again and try to run spd-say hello or something
> in order to test whether this is orca or speech dispatcher what has just
> crashed?
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter
>
> On 21.06.2013 22:54, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
> hi Peter,
>
> I just tried that on my ubuntu 13.04 machine.
> i got xfce 4 to install but ffter boting it and then hitting alt+f2
> and entered orca then orca seems to have crashed.
> welcome to orca was announced but i don't know if orca really started
> completely or not. after that i tried hitting alt+f1 and there was no
> speech. i also tried insert+space to bring up the orca settings dialog
> which also didn't come up.
>
>
> before that i created this file:
> ~/.xinitrc
>
>
> with the following content:
> export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
>
>
> any suggestions?
>
> greetings,
> simon
>
>
> Am 19.06.2013 16:00, schrieb Peter Vágner:
> Hello,
> I am also using xfce on one of my machines and I have got a lot of apps
> working in there.
> So let's assume you have got pure text based arch linux installed and
> you would like to get xfce installed and try to make it accessible.
> Here is what I would suggest:
> - install xfce4 and xfce4-goodies groups of packages.
> - If you have no ~/.xinitrc file then copy the default one into your
> home directory
> cp /etc/skel/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc
> - edit ~/.xinitrc with your favorite text editor. Make sure the line
> exec startxfce4
> is there and is not commented out.
> Before this line add another line saying
> export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
> - Install orca what will also install speech-dispatcher and other
> dependencies.
> - Now either change speech-dispatcher configuration so it will use alsa
> as its output module or install pulseaudio.
> You can edit /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf
> - At this point you should be able to start xfce by executing startx .
> As it starts up you will be greeted by the pannel configuration which is
> not accessible. You can escape or alt+f4 out of it and then press alt+f2
> to run xfce4 app finder and type in orca to launch it.
> - If orca starts first thing you should do is that you will press alt+f1
> to inwoke the popup menu, choose applications -> settings ->
> accessibility and enable screen reader checkbox.
>
> I haven't installed gdm in order to get accessible login screen because
> it installs a lot of gnome dependencies. Instead I have installed SLiM
> and set it to autologin.
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM#Autologin
>
> In order to make the experience better I have installed the following
> gnome and lxde packages:
> polkit-gnome, evince, file-roller, pcman-fm.
> QT4 apps can also be made accessible while running xfce4 you have to
> instal qt-at-spi from AUR and restart the machine in order to get it
> working.
>
> xfce4-terminal is accessible, it has even keyboard shortcut for
> select all.
> Mousepad what is xfce text editor is working verry well too.
> For playing multimedia you can install vlc, totem or DeaDBeeF for music.
> DeaDBeeF is just partially accessible but it's avesome.
>
> Firefox, Thunderbird and libre-office are all working verry well.
> In the alt+F1 menu -> settings -> prefered applications I have changed
> default filemanager from thunar to pcman-fm.
>
> Hopefully this is usefull
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter
> On 19.06.2013 15:04, Dave Hunt wrote:
> I'm sure ou can use LO, Firefox, and other popular titles with XFCE
> and LXDE.  There's a version of Sonar with LXDE.  The panel is
> inaccessible, but the menus and configurators seem to work with orca.
> I know you're not a Ubuntu user, but Jonathan's Sonar LXDE can show
> you how it's done.  I think it's a matter of setting a couple of
> environment variables and/or configuration switches to get LXDE
> talking?
>
>
>
>
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