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Re: [orca-list] Orca with a window manager

Two things for you:

1.  put your answers near the top instead of at the bottom of your e-mails
so we can find them more easily without too much scrolling.  
2.  Debug outputs are best sent to the list in attachments so people who
can't make sense of them don't have pages and pages of error code to scroll
through in order to find your replies in case you don't follow number 1's
instructions.

I hope someone can give you a specific reason for why Orca isn't working.
For me, the bottom line answer is that you don't have all the infrastructure
in place that it needs to do its job in a minimalist wm-based system.  

Thanks.
Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Pascal
Diogo Antunes
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:42 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca with a window manager

On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:39:45 -0500
Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com> wrote:


I do not think it's possible.  You need a desktop.  The closest I've 
heard to someone doing what you describe is using the Fluxbox window 
manager but, even then, Orca did not perform as well as it did with a

desktop system.

You can use LXDE or XFCE if you want a minimalist experience but, 
again, it will not work as well as it does with Gnome.  Such a thing 
is only possible in theory.

Alex M

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of 
Pascal Diogo Antunes
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 2:49 PM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: [orca-list] Orca with a window manager

Hi,
I would to use Orca without Gnome interface. Because without Gnome, 
and just a window manager - no desktop environment; orca doesn't work. 
So how can I have a Orca working, without a desktop environment? With 
Gnome tools on backend, but without environment modification- It's 
possible? How can I do it?

Thanks in advance.
Libere,
Pascal Diogo Antunes.

--
"Si tu as envie de travailler, assieds-toi et attends que ça passe."- 
Proverbe Corse.



I don't know why, but Orca doesn't work well.

$ orca
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 130, in init
    _initSpeechServer(moduleName, None)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 114, in
_initSpeechServer
    raise Exception("No speech server for factory: %s" % moduleName)
Exception: No speech server for factory: speechdispatcherfactory


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 151,
in getSpeechServer
    return SpeechServer(info[0])
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 178,
in __init__
    e = __import__(_getcodes(engine),
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 442,
in _getcodes
    raise Exception("No code table for %s" % engine)
Exception: No code table for Default Synthesizer


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1503, in main
    speech.speak(message, settings.voices.get(settings.SYSTEM_VOICE))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 218, in speak
    _speak(content, acss, interrupt)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 193, in
_speak
    _speechserver.speak(text, __resolveACSS(voice), interrupt)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 344,
in speak
    self.queueText(text, acss)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 275,
in queueText
    self._output.write(cmd % self._quoteSpecialChars(chunk))
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/event_manager.py", line 222,
in _dequeue
    self._processObjectEvent(event)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/event_manager.py", line 560,
in _processObjectEvent
    script.processObjectEvent(event)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/script.py", line 404, in
processObjectEvent
    self.listeners[key](event)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/scripts/default.py", line
3259, in onMouseButton
    speech.stop()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 331, in stop
    _speechserver.stop()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 374,
in stop
    self._output.write("s\n")
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe

event_manager._dequeue: the event queue is empty!

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/orca.py", line 883, in
showPreferencesGUI
    module.showPreferencesUI()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/orca_gui_prefs.py", line 3473,
in showPreferencesUI
    defScript.speakMessage(line)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/scripts/default.py", line
5935, in speakMessage
    speech.speak(string, voice, interrupt)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 218, in speak
    _speak(content, acss, interrupt)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 193, in
_speak
    _speechserver.speak(text, __resolveACSS(voice), interrupt)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 344,
in speak
    self.queueText(text, acss)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 275,
in queueText
    self._output.write(cmd % self._quoteSpecialChars(chunk))
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/event_manager.py", line 222,
in _dequeue
    self._processObjectEvent(event)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/event_manager.py", line 560,
in _processObjectEvent
    script.processObjectEvent(event)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/script.py", line 404, in
processObjectEvent
    self.listeners[key](event)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/scripts/default.py", line
3259, in onMouseButton
    speech.stop()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 331, in stop
    _speechserver.stop()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 374,
in stop
    self._output.write("s\n")
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe

event_manager._dequeue: the event queue is empty!

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/orca.py", line 883, in
showPreferencesGUI
    module.showPreferencesUI()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/orca_gui_prefs.py", line 3473,
in showPreferencesUI
    defScript.speakMessage(line)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/scripts/default.py", line
5935, in speakMessage
    speech.speak(string, voice, interrupt)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 218, in speak
    _speak(content, acss, interrupt)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 193, in
_speak
    _speechserver.speak(text, __resolveACSS(voice), interrupt)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 344,
in speak
    self.queueText(text, acss)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/orca/espeechfactory.py", line 275,
in queueText
    self._output.write(cmd % self._quoteSpecialChars(chunk))
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe

Killed

Every click on buttons are useless, I have always IOError: [Errno 32].

Thanks in advance.

Libere,
Pascal Diogo Antunes.

--
"On peut tout dire du moment que c'est passé. Le présent, voilà le problème,
parce qu'il engage l'avenir."- Serge Doubrovsky.
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