Re: [orca-list] First impressions after the migration to Ubuntu 12.10



You should have tried  12.04 instead of 12.10. The accessibility experience is much better on that version. 

Alex M

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On Jan 6, 2013, at 5:01 AM, Luciano de souza <luchyanus gmail com> wrote:

Hello all,
I have been using Ubuntu 10.10 and Orca 3.2.0 for a long while. Now, I decided to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10. 
The first impression is a whole chock. If you are acquainted with Gnome, it'll be natural to have 
difficulties with the new interface.
I don't know if it was a good idea, but after installing the new system, I have upgraded it. Opened a 
spreadsheet, I noticed that Orca does not interact well with Calc. It means a lost since in Ubuntu 10.10, I 
have used Libreoffice successfully.
Compared to Ubuntu 10.10 and Gnome, Ubuntu 12.10 and Unity has  much more lacks of accessibility. One of 
them is found when we press alt+F2 to access a prompt to type commands. If the command is wrong, there's no 
way to know it.
Actually, I decided to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10 becose, in the previous version, there wasn't newer deb 
packages of Orca. Having installed the version 12.10, I noticed Orca was upgraded from 3.2.0 to 3.7.0. I 
don't follow constantly the news of Orca, but I was expecting for improvements in web navigation.
Orca has the magic command "o that allows us to find text eazily, so it would be nice to read texts by 
means of Orca if it didn't pause before links. That's true. Texts with lots of links, for example, 
Wikipedia texts, can't be read freely. As Orca stops before each link, the reading is so trunked that I 
prefer to copy the text to read in Gedit. This is a severe, really severe issue.
The lower performance is another negative aspect. I have a trio with 3.26 GHZ and 4 gigabytes of RAM> It's 
not a top machine, but it's not a justification for so bad performance. With Ubuntu 10.10, I got 
performance much lower than Windows, but better than Ubuntu 12.10.
There are to main types of user: the common, worried only with the usage and the testers, worried to search 
for new features. I have some fear of instalations and upgrades. When you have your life stored in your 
machine, the  possibility to lose it is terrible.
So I would like some orientation to select the more accessible distribution, the more  stable and featured 
Orca and the best graphical user interface. Is Ubuntu the best option? Archlinux? Fedora? Open Suse?
For my current distribution, Ubuntu 12.10, I ask:
1. Is there a way to use Calc spreadsheets?
2. Does someone know tips that can improve Ubuntu's performance?
3. Is Orca 3.7.0 the newer version available in deb package?
4. Is there something to eliminate the pauses when Orca reads links of webpages?
I have writen this message in Gedit. When I tried to copy to Thunderbird, the information of "alt+tab" was 
very confused. Sometimes, it stops in the wrong option, sometimes it stops to read. In Ubuntu 12.10, does 
Orca behave as described?
Well, if someone has any tip to become eazier the migration, I will enjoy very much!
Best regards,
Luciano
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