Re: [orca-list] [ubuntu] updated a11y page

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

I think the statement that Vinux is not needed any more on this page is
inappropriate. I think this is a personal opinion that we already
discussed on this list. If anything, this is the opinion of one person
or a few people and not necessarily the opinion of the entire Ubuntu
accessibility community.

IMHO, Vinux is not irrelevant Of course, you could say that any distro
or flavor is irrelevant or not needed, but distros and flavors spring up
for a reason.

I have a rather long list of steps I follow to get stock Ubuntu to the
point where I can drop it into my production environment, including
changing Makefiles and recompiling. To have this done for me in a distro
makes that distro relevant. IMHO, Ubuntu accessibility is more than just
getting Orca up and running on the desktop.

As I said above, this has already been discussed on this list, and I
think you've been involved in those discussions. I'd suggest reviewing
the archives of this list and that discussion. I'd also suggest taking
this off the Orca list and maybe over to the Ubuntu Accessibility list.
Finally, I'd suggest being receptive to feedback on this content.
On 19/02/13 09:31, Bill Dengler wrote:
> How so? I installed Ubuntu 12.10 using a USB flash drive onto this linux
> laptop, used it, upgraded it to 13.04, am still using it without issues,
> am typing this e-mail on said install, and about to press ctrl+enter and
> send it. There was a time when Linux a11y was hard to set up, where
> gnome wasn't even fully accessible, where we were using this gnopernicus
> screen reader that gave us minimal access etc. Those times we needed a
> simple, insert the disk, push a button and start up a talking system
> disk. But the standard Ubuntu media with no modifications does this and
> does it well, and so Vinux is irrelevant.
> On 02/19/2013 10:25 AM, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 03:18:05PM GMT, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 02:46:14PM GMT, Bill Dengler wrote:
> > > > I updated Ubuntu's a11y page. Does this look correct/current? Do you
> > > > suggest anything else?
> > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
> > > I don't really think its worth mentioning Vinux on an Ubuntu page. Vinux is not really recognised as an 
> > > official derivative of Ubuntu, and likely never will, due to the use of 3rd-party repositories and a 
> > > development cycle thats not in sync with ubuntu, among other things.
> > And, it could be argued that the blurb about vinux and its relevance or otherwise is a matter of personal 
> > opinion.
> >
> > Luke
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Christopher (CJ)
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