Re: [orca-list] several critical issues

[Peter VÃgner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
Sorry for repeating my self. I just want to make sure I have explained 
it properly.
Most of the time it works as expected. It just happens randomly after a 
while that I am working on the PC.
For example 2 3 or even more hours of working with the PC everything is 
okay and then randomly something of these happens and I either need to 
restart orca or if that is not helpfull I need to reboot the whole system.

Greetings

Peter



On 15.09.2012 03:36, Alex Midence  wrote:
> In that case, I have absolutely no idea why it is behaving this way. You have the most recent version that is 
> available with your distribution repositories.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 14, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Peter VÃgner <pvdeejay gmail com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I have got proposed repository enabled.
> > I have enabled it using software center while orca 3.4.2 was in there.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On 14.09.2012 20:19, Alex Midence  wrote:
> > > Hi, Peter,
> > >
> > > After reading Joannie's response to you, I have a question for you:
> > >
> > > Do you have the proposed updates repository enabled?  The reason I ask is
> > > that there may be a more recent version of at-spi2 in there that may solve
> > > your problem.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Alex M
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
> > > Behalf Of Peter VÃgner
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:45 AM
> > > To: orca-list gnome org
> > > Subject: [orca-list] several critical issues
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I am sorry to bring some of these things up again however I really cant find
> > > definite answers and according to the list archives some of these might even
> > > be fixed but they not appear as so for me.
> > >
> > > - Verry frequently orca send parts of its keybindings to the active
> > > aplication. For example while I am chatting in empathy pressing orca+t
> > > anounces the time but also types letter t into the active input field.
> > > This happens verry iregularly for me and the only know method on how to fix
> > > it is that I need to reboot. When this happens with gnome terminal I am no
> > > longer able to read the window content by using numpad keys because orca
> > > sends numpad arrows to the terminal. For example this can also be observed
> > > in thunderbird. While composing an email, I sometimes read the whole message
> > > before sending it out. So I am usually pressing
> > > ctrl+home to go to the top and then I am pressing numpad plus for say
> > > all. What happens is that orca starts reading the text, plus sign gets typed
> > > to the edit field and cursor stays at the top even if I pause the say all.
> > >
> > > - While system is busy for example loading a page in firefox, checking new
> > > mails thunderbird the system is somewhat sluggish even on a verry fast Intel
> > > I7 procesor machine. I have got used to this fact somehow, however sometimes
> > > when the system is sluggish and I am pressing keys on the keyboard e.g.
> > > alt+tabbing to the other windows, trying to use numpad keys to read the
> > > window content the orca or a keyboard support or I dont know what exactly
> > > freezes and then I am no longer able to interupt speech by pressing a key.
> > > For example I do need to wait until the speech output is done speaking until
> > > I can continue navigation because otherwise these two will not sync.
> > > Sometimes I can restart orca and things get to normal in such a scenario
> > > however at times I do need to also reboot the system.
> > >
> > > - It is verry rare however I can sometimes even get a combination of these
> > > two if I attempt to ignore the first issue and am trying to make the most
> > > out of it eventhough the system is buggy.
> > >
> > > - handling read only edit fields for example those displayed in empathy chat
> > > window or even in a system dialogs. I think in the past there was a keyboard
> > > shortcut to make these readable but I cant find that shortcut now nor I can
> > > read confortably while these fields are in focus. I need to use numpad keys
> > > to read the content. It means I am not able to copy from such fields as
> > > well.
> > > I think this is verry important feature and I do really miss it verry much.
> > >
> > > I am using ubuntu 12.04 with all available updates.
> > > I have manually updated to the latest stable version of orca, orca
> > > 3.5.90 some two days before.
> > >
> > > In the past I was trying ubuntu and debian with gnome. However I have never
> > > used it longer than for a few days just to test things out. Now I am using
> > > this install of ubuntu exclusivelly for some three months and I can get my
> > > things done quite successfully. The things I have just mentioned are just
> > > verry anoying sometimes and this is why I have tried to post such a detailed
> > > message. Maybe you might be able to tell me where I am failing and otherwise
> > > get me on the right track in order to improve the situation for me.
> > >
> > > Thanks and greetings
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
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> > > The manual is at
> > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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