Re: [orca-list] Pages with text that change dynamically



Yeah, just turn live region monitoring off with the key sequence
Orca+shift+\.

On 26/10/12 13:16, Josà Vilmar EstÃcio de Souza wrote:
Hi all.

Try to access the following url:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Totem-3-6-2-Media-Player-Repairs-Ogg-Video-Streaming-302407.shtml


Note that after the page is loaded, orca starts reading texts at random.
This is in my opinion very annoying, especially if you are trying to
read the entire document.

In the debug output of orca I found the following sequence:
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:DELETE:SYSTEM
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD:SYSTEM
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:INSERT:SYSTEM
DEQUEUED OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:DELETE:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:delete:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:text-changed:delete:system        detail=(0,1,ï)
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0017
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:delete:system ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:children-changed:add:system       detail=(0,0,[link
| Evince 3.7.1 Has New Application Menu])
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0230
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add:system ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:INSERT:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:insert:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:text-changed:insert:system        detail=(0,1,ï)
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0058
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:insert:system ^^^^^

SPEECH OUTPUT: 'Evince 3.7.1 Has New Application Menu'
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:DELETE:SYSTEM
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD:SYSTEM
DEQUEUED OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:DELETE:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:delete:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:text-changed:delete:system        detail=(0,1,ï)
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:INSERT:SYSTEM
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0025
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:delete:system ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:children-changed:add:system       detail=(0,0,[link
| Theo, the Hero War Dog, Receives Medal for Bravery])
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0270
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add:system ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:INSERT:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:insert:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:text-changed:insert:system        detail=(0,1,ï)
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0104
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:insert:system ^^^^^

SPEECH OUTPUT: 'Theo, the Hero War Dog, Receives Medal for Bravery'
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:DELETE
DEQUEUED OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:DELETE  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:delete vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:text-changed:delete               detail=(0,9,)
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:PROPERTY-CHANGE:ACCESSIBLE-NAME
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:INSERT
    app.name='gnome-shell' name='None' role='text' state='focusable
showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: gnome-shell (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.CALLY.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0033
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:delete ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:PROPERTY-CHANGE:ACCESSIBLE-NAME  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:property-change:accessible-name vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:property-change:accessible-name   detail=(0,0,Fri
15:40)
    app.name='gnome-shell' name='Fri 15:40' role='label' state='showing
visible' relations='label for'
Script for event: gnome-shell (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.CALLY.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0026
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:property-change:accessible-name ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:INSERT  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:insert vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:text-changed:insert               detail=(0,9,Fri
15:40)
    app.name='gnome-shell' name='None' role='text' state='focusable
showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: gnome-shell (module=orca.scripts.toolkits.CALLY.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0018
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:insert ^^^^^

----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:DELETE:SYSTEM
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD:SYSTEM
----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:INSERT:SYSTEM
DEQUEUED OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:DELETE:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:delete:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:text-changed:delete:system        detail=(0,1,ï)
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0018
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:delete:system ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:CHILDREN-CHANGED:ADD:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:children-changed:add:system       detail=(0,0,[link
| Armageddon â Worldâs Strongest Beer Is Stronger than Whiskey])
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0242
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:children-changed:add:system ^^^^^

DEQUEUED OBJECT:TEXT-CHANGED:INSERT:SYSTEM  <----------

vvvvv PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:insert:system vvvvv
OBJECT EVENT: object:text-changed:insert:system        detail=(0,1,ï)
    app.name='Firefox' name='None' role='section' state='enabled
horizontal sensitive showing visible selectable text' relations=''
Script for event: Firefox (module=orca.scripts.apps.Mozilla.script)
TOTAL PROCESSING TIME: 0.0078
^^^^^ PROCESS OBJECT EVENT object:text-changed:insert:system ^^^^^

SPEECH OUTPUT: 'Armageddon â Worldâs Strongest Beer Is Stronger than
Whiskey'

Is there anything that can be done to avoid this noise?
Thanks.


-- 
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail



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