Yes, Phpmyadmin has similar issues but I don’t think it has Ajax or _javascript_. The reason I don’t is that I can read it with emacs w-3 browser using Emacspeak. Emacs w-3 can’t render _javascript_. I guess I can try that with phppgadmin. Wish I knew why Orca doesn’t work with these two web applications though. I can’t get my windows machine to work with phppgadmin though because I get a 403 unauthorized error. It wants me to access it right from the Linux machine it’s installed on and not remotely. Not a problem I have with phpadmin since I am quite able to navigate it just fine from a windows machine using Jaws. Jaws does a fantastic job with it, actually. If memory serves, so does NVDA. Thank you for confirming that it would do as good a job with phppgadmin. I am very curious as to what makes Orca interact with it so poorly. Thanks. Alex M From: Andy B. [mailto:sonfire11 gmail com] Hi. I have briefly used it on Windows 7 with IIS 7.5 and JAWS 14 beta 2. Your evaluation of the iframe is correct. The main content is contained inside a frame on the website. The navigation frame is located in another frame. How these frames are arranged on the pages, I don’t know since I am unable to see how it is laid out. Unfortunately, it appears that the developer used JQuery or ajax of some kind to reload the contents of the content frame because I have no indication from JAWS that content has changed when moving around. I don’t know what the problem is exactly, but PHPMyAdmin seems to have the same sort of problem. From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Alex Midence Hi, all, I’m tentatively venturing into the jungle of Postgresql driven web apps. To manage their database back ends, I installed php pg admin thinking it would be comparable to using phpadmin on mysql databases. Anyway, Orca appears not to be able to read some aprts of each page. I clicked on the introduction, for instance, thinking that I’d wind up on some page telling me about how to use this web interface and, there appeared to be little change in the page I was on. Same for going to the servers page and a few others I explored. Orca seems to say that there is an internal frame and somewhere on ths page but doesn’t appear to be able to see what’s in it. Has anyone ever used Orca with Php pg Admin successfully? I’m running this on Debian Squeeze with Iceweasel and Orca 3.2-xdesktop. The alternative to this one is a WxGtk application called pgadmin3. Unfortunately, however, the issues surrounding wxwidgets applications make this application difficult and potentially impossible to use. Any help you guys can give me with a postgresql front end would be appreciated. Alex M |