Re: [orca-list] Which distribution to switch to from Windows? [was "Re: A real message with a question"]



I don't think I'd recommend that to somebody just switching from Windows.  It sounds amazingly complicated and full of issues that they wouldn't be used to dealing with.  And, Ubuntu has the latest Gnome in 12.10 if I remember correctly.  Either way, it's way way easier with far fewer headaches for domeone making the switch than Debian Sid is. 


Alex M

On 11/29/2012 12:55 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

Debian sid has GNOME Desktop with cinnemon  which is like GNOME 2 and is accessible.

MATE is just like  GNOME 2 but uses mate applications which are inaccessible.

Debian Sid has latest GNOME 3 point something which just came out which makes GNOME 3 just likr GNOME 2 but only much better.  Ubuntu doesn't  have it.

With Debian Sid you always have the latest packages and it rolls instead of being released.

Debian's problems are you have to add multimedia and non-free repositories to it.  Also Debian will not allow Firefox or Thunderbird because the icons  are copyrighted.

Also Debian used Desktop packages as does Ubuntu so if you wanted to remove mate-terminal  and put in gnome-terminal which talks, the package system says it has to remove the rest of GNOME.  Really stupid.

Easiest thing to do is install Debian MINT, edit /etc/apt/sources file and paste in Debian sources and put # in front of the Debian MINT sources.

You can use smxi to do updates.

Unfortunately you have to edit that script file and comment out the section that mentions Debian MINT because smxi thinks it will not work.

Debian is much easier to use than Ubuntu if you do a bit of work..

Also you need to know what drivers you nerd for wifi but once you know the name it is done for you.

Debian could use jockey-gtk but that darned FREE software policy does not allow that.

If Ubuntu goes back to a recular desktop, all will be well.

If someone made a working command line iso file of ARCH linux that talks I would go with that as it has the very new GNOME that one again talks even though it is designed for touch screen which is a seeing thing.  I would install ARCH in a heartbeat but I have tried three three times to install but I cannot do it, it is like the instructions are missing.

But even with Ubuntu going touch screen and MATE which is a 2.0 like desktop, all that insanity is still better than Windows.

David

On Nov 28, 2012 7:53 PM, "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain gmail com> wrote:
Why wouldn't you consider Ubuntu? I think Ubuntu 12.04 LTS would be
close to what you're looking for.

On 28/11/12 18:48, John J. Boyer wrote:
> I am thinking of switching from Windows to Linux for ofgice work. So I
> want to avoid the bleeding edge, but I do want reasonably up-to-date
> accessibility features and desktop. I'll be using LibreOffice. What
> would be a good compromise between Ubuntu and CentOS?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 06:23:07PM -0500, Thomas Ward wrote:
>> Hello John,
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/12, John J. Boyer <john boyer abilitiessoft com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My question is whether anyone has had experience with Orca on CentOS
>>> 6.3.
>>
>> Well, is there something specific you want to know? About the only
>> thing I can tell you is because CentOS is largely using Enterprise
>> packages like Red Hat Enterprise the accessibility stack is extremely
>> old. From what I can tell CentOS 6.3 is still using Gnome 2.x and
>> at-spi 1.x, and they are way behind in terms of modern Orca
>> dependencies etc. This isn't unusual for Enterprise Linux as every
>> Enterprise system I've seen over the last couple of years is way
>> behind in terms of VI access packages where distributions like Ubuntu
>> try to stay on the bleeding edge of things.
>>
>> Cheers!
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