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Re: [orca-list] Orca preferences dialog redesign

I haven't been in the Orca config dialog for some while now but I would think the two proposed check boxes 
would be fine.  As for identifying capital letters, I would like the word Cap and not Capital to be spoken if 
I were to choose that option.  Personally, I much rather use pitch for capitalization.  I thought speech 
dispatcher was the only speech engine for Orca these days so how could you use extensions from speak without 
using speech dispatcher with Orca?

On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Speedy wrote:


I like a label for a checkbox which increases the top rate by 3x to be called something appropriate, like 
Turbo, Boost, Sonic (the name of the filter software), or Karen (my wife who talks very fast).  Note that 
currently only espeak has this software included in it's package.  Too bad it is not implemented in 
Speech-Dispatcher so it would apply to all synthesizers.  

In my case, I never need capitalization indicated while it is reading, such as on a website or email.  I 
suppose proofreaders are the only ones who could stand this as well as having all punctuation read.  I only 
use it while typing and while reviewing by Word or character.  I usually set indicate capitalization using 
Cap on individual characters or the first character in a word.  Saying All Caps for an acronym makes sense, 
but mixed case gets harder.  I have heard other screen readers say Cap before every instance of a capital 
letter in a word.  Normally I set capitalization indicated by character only and review by character if 
capitalization is an issue.  Perhaps a combo box (drop down list) for Indicate capitals by Char, Word, 
Sentence, or All is more appropriate?  Again espeak already does some of this, except they say Capital 
rather than Cap.  I would be happy just to have a simple way in the orca preferences to set this feature 
"as is".  The remainder of my rant is how it ideally could be handled.  

Don Marang
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org


On 4/23/2012 6:41 PM, Dave Hunt wrote:

I think a couple of checkboxes should do it.  Let's call them 'speak' and 'pitch'.  If 'pitch' is 
selected, present the adjuster.  What would we do about mixed case, all-caps, and/or other attributes?  
This could get messy if we're not careful. 


-Dave 





On 04/23/2012 06:36 PM, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote: 

Good idea to have the "Cap" for capital letters as an option.  "CapCap" 
would be good for things that are all in capitals. 

Al 

-----Original Message----- 
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On 
Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:23 PM 
To: orca-list gnome org 
Subject: [orca-list] Fwd: Re: Orca preferences dialog redesign 

Forwarding to the Orca list so that all the answers are public. 

-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca preferences dialog redesign 
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:20:06 -0400 
From: Speedy<speedychair live com> 
Reply-To: Donald Marang verizon net 
To: Joanmarie Diggs<jdiggs igalia com> 

On at least one release of orca or Ubuntu, I have seen the Set 
PunctuationLevel bound to Orca + p.  This binding made sense to me. 

I have two additional items I personally would like to see added to the orca 
preferences.  The first may not be very popular anymore.  Because my hearing 
sometimes misses the pitch change for capital letters, I prefer it say "Cap" 
before the letter when typing and reviewing by letter.  I have figured out 
more than once how to do this for espeak. 
Is it generally possible to provide a checkbox which would work for most 
synthesizers?  The second enhancement I would like to see added to the orca 
preferences dialog is a way to speed up the speech rate beyond the default. 
The espeak package now uses the libsonic libraries which can speed up the 
speech up to 3x the previous range.  This is utilized by NVDA in Windows as 
a Turbo checkbox.  Currently in Vinux, the max - min range and the default 
rates can be changed in the configuration files. 

*Don Marang* 
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org 
<http://www.vinuxproject.org/> 


On 4/23/2012 12:25 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: 

Hey Albert. 

Thanks for your response! 

On 04/23/2012 12:06 PM, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote: 

[...] 


Let me know if I'm mistaken, but one thing I've never seen is the 
option of a key binding for changing punctuation level on the fly. 
This would often be helpful. 

It's unbound by default and is currently called "Cycles to the next 
speaking of punctuation level." Personally I think that could be 
better worded. Regardless, given that we are getting a makeover, I 
would ask you to consider the following: Why didn't you find this before? 
Possibilities could include, but are not limited to: 

1. Lousy description of function 
2. The keybindings page is confusing 
3. You think the setting should be elsewhere 4. Something(s) else 

For the record, I am not going to take any offense at, or be hurt by, 
hearing a bunch of "What I hate about the Orca Preferences dialog" 
items. In fact, that is *exactly* what I am asking all of you to 
provide. I want to hand Felipe with the most detailed list possible so 
that we can, once and for all, have a GUI that is awesome. 

Thanks again! 
--joanie 
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The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html 
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions 
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org 
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