Re: [orca-list] Trisquel

[Robert Cole <rkcole72984 gmail com>]

Hello, Krishnakant.

I think that the main difference between my Thunderbird situation and 
yours is that my inbox has very few e-mails. I either delete or archive 
messages when I am finished reading them. Each person has his or her own 
individual preferences when it comes to dealing with e-mails, but I 
personally like to keep my Inbox as clean as possible. <smile> That 
could possibly be what is giving you the problem, however. I also have 
Thunderbird set to remember my password so that I do not have to 
re-enter it each time I start it, but I typically only check e-mails 
here at home. If you are on a mobile device, such as a laptop or a 
netbook, then I definitely understand why you would not want it to 
remember your passwords.

I am sorry that I cannot be of any help to you on this one. All that I 
am able to do is to share my experiences.

Take care.

On 06/07/2012 12:41 PM, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> very interesting.
> I hvae all the problems I mentioned.
> I am suing Orca 3.5.2 released I guess on 4th June.
> This is what happens.
> I start my machine and then Orca.
> I press windows key + 9 because that is what launchers Thunderbird for 
> me.
> I have to wait for a long time before Orca prompts me for a password.
> I made sure that this is not a problem with Thunderbird because my 
> sighted wife told me that password prompt for the gnail account had 
> come in just about 5 or 6 seconds.
> I waited for more than a couple of minutes after she informed me of 
> the password prompt.
> Note that I have 6500 emails in my inbox and there are other folders 
> as well.
> Secondly, after I open my inbox, suppose I get a new email, I can't 
> get access to it through the list of emails.
> I have to press shift tab from the list of emails, then press up and 
> down arrow to unselect and again select the inbox folder.
> Now when I press tab, I get to see the new email in the list.
> Some how Orca is not becoming aware of the refreshed list of emails.
> These are the only 2 problems I see apart from the commonly known bug 
> on key echo.
> I tried with both Thunderbird 12 and 13.
> Orca 3.5.2
> Happy hacking.
> Krishnakant.
>
>
> On 06/08/2012 12:13 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
> > I am actually using Thunderbird 12.0.1 under Fedora 17 and it seems 
> > to work very well with Orca, version 3.4.2 even better than it has in 
> > the past. I have not noticed any significant accessibility issues 
> > other than some minor things like Echo by Word does not seem to 
> > function. when composing a message. Other than that it is working 
> > wonderfully here.
> >
> > On 06/07/2012 09:16 AM, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> > > This is really interesting.
> > > I think I must try latest thunderbird.
> > > I don't know which one comes with Ubuntu 12.04, although I assume 
> > > its the latest.
> > > Happy hacking.
> > > Krishnakant.
> > >
> > > On 06/07/2012 09:42 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > > > I don't know anything about Trisquel, but couldn't you use apt-get to
> > > > update Firefox?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I'm still running Vinux 3.2.1 with Gnome 2 and Orca 3.1.9 on my
> > > > production system. I recently upgraded from Thunderbird 3.1 to
> > > > Thunderbird 12, and I don't have any problems with Thunderbird at all.
> > > > could it be the problems that people are seeing with newer versions of
> > > > Thunderbird have to do with the interaction between the newer versions
> > > > of Thunderbird and the newer versions of Orca or one of the pieces of
> > > > the accessibility infrastructure?
> > > >
> > > > On 07/06/12 01:57, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> > > > > Well, with reference to Trisquel, this is my ideal wishlist.
> > > > > 1, latest version of Firefox and Orca to make web accessibility 
> > > > > like in
> > > > > Ubuntu Precise
> > > > > 2, preferabally an older version of thunderbird may be 3.1 or so
> > > > > 3, a well behaved version of Libre Office calc
> > > > > Rest all seems to be perfectly ok.
> > > > > Happy hacking.
> > > > > Krishnakant.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 06/06/2012 07:50 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Krishnakant,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I checked the beta it was using Gnome 3.2 and Orca 3.2.1 I
> > > > > > believe. However, Gnome 3.2 was setup to boot in fallback mode so it
> > > > > > had a Gnome 2.x look and feel. As Dave says it is quite accessible,
> > > > > > but I prefer Ubuntu as I have access to newer packages etc faster.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 6/6/12, Krishnakant Mane<krmane gmail com>   wrote:
> > > > > > > Huh, Ubuntu 11.10?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which version of gnome 3 and Orca comes with it?
> > > > > > > Happy hacking.
> > > > > > > Krishnakant.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 06/06/2012 06:39 PM, Dave Hunt wrote:
> > > > > > > > Trisquel is a desktop Linux distribution, for use in homes, small
> > > > > > > > enterprises, and educational settings, containing only free 
> > > > > > > > software,
> > > > > > > > and has the endorsement of the Free Software Foundation.  It is 
> > > > > > > > based
> > > > > > > > on Ubuntu 11.10, but with Unity, Ubuntu1, Software Center, Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > branding, and support for proprietary firmware and applications
> > > > > > > > removed, leaving a performant, stable, and reliable classic 
> > > > > > > > Gnome 3
> > > > > > > > experience.  I run Trisquel on an Asus netbook, very well.  Please
> > > > > > > > visit http://trisquel.info to download the system and learn 
> > > > > > > > more.  If
> > > > > > > > you boot the I18N DVD edition, orca will come up talking at system
> > > > > > > > start.  Once the system is live-booted, you have a 
> > > > > > > > fully-functional
> > > > > > > > Trisquel environment, from which you can test it for compatibility
> > > > > > > > with your hardware, run the included apps, install the system 
> > > > > > > > to your
> > > > > > > > hard drive or a virtual machine, and more.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    for
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 06/06/2012 07:44 AM, William Gallik wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I'm interested in purchasing a somewhat older PC (probably 18-24
> > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > > > > old) and installing Linux exclusively on that computer. I 
> > > > > > > > > joined this
> > > > > > > > > list so I can first get some insights as to issues for blind 
> > > > > > > > > computer
> > > > > > > > > users working on a Linux/Orca platform. As such, I have some 
> > > > > > > > > questions
> > > > > > > > > of curiosity:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1) What is Trisquel and what is it for? Is it a Linux/Unix
> > > > > > > > > application?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2) When Daniel related that he's using a Mac Mini with VMWare 
> > > > > > > > > Fusion,
> > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that this means that a Linux OS is being emulated 
> > > > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > > > the Mac native OS (although I understand the Mac OS kernel is 
> > > > > > > > > in fact
> > > > > > > > > Unix). How does that work, to get one of the screen readers to
> > > > > > > > > function
> > > > > > > > > I mean?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I want to migrate to a Linux system because I'm a retired 
> > > > > > > > > Software
> > > > > > > > > Engineer from Bell Laboratories and honestly prefer Unix and it's
> > > > > > > > > various versions to any version of Windows.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----------------
> > > > > > > > > Holland's Boy, Bill
> > > > > > > > > - "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most."
> > > > > > > > > - unknown -- but I'm sure any one of a number of us could 
> > > > > > > > > claim it as
> > > > > > > > > our own! ;-)
> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > > > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > > > > > The manual is at
> > > > > > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > > > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > > > > > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > > > > The manual is at
> > > > > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > > > > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > > > The manual is at
> > > > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > > > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > > The manual is at
> > > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > The manual is at
> > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > orca-list mailing list
> > > orca-list gnome org
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > The manual is at 
> > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > orca-list mailing list
> > orca-list gnome org
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > The manual is at 
> > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp