Re: [orca-list] GNOME Shell Dialogs

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

Absolutely true. Usually the first thing I want when learning a new
application is a gist of how it's laid out. I'll also build my own
mental image of how an application is laid out as I learn to use it,
such as Thunderbird. Of course, I could end up being wrong and this
would be so much easier and more accurate if I started off with a
description of the general layout.

On 01/06/12 01:11, Mallory van Achterberg wrote:
> Hey,
>
> When the description is of software and meant for a large group,
> I can't imagine why people can get all angry: while some people
> are totally blind, lots of blind people have some partial vision.
>
> Including spatial descriptions also means it can work for more people
> (that is, either blind or sighted can understand the descriptions,
> and everyone in between too).
>
> -Mallory
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 06:55:57PM -0700, Robert Cole wrote:
> > Hello, Alex.
> >
> > I am very glad that my description was helpful to you. to be honest
> > I was afraid to go into as much detail because I did not want to
> > offend anyone. I say this in the sense that here where I am living
> > in California, I have met other blind individuals (who have no
> > vision), and when I have tried to describe things to them based on
> > what little vision I have, they have gotten upset with me, and even
> > angry at times. And I mean it sincerely that I do not want to upset
> > or offend anyone. I just felt like maybe contrasting the differences
> > between Unity and GNOME Shell might be insightful to others here on
> > the list.
> >
> > One of the things which disheartens me sometimes is when I get a new
> > piece of technology and open the manual to find it is many pictures
> > and few words. One good example is a Christmas present which my
> > oldest son received a year ago. I was so excited because I wanted to
> > assemble it for him, but when I looked at the manual it was nothing
> > but pictorial instructions. If the assembling procedure was
> > described in words I know I could have done it, but even with
> > magnification pictures are still mainly a blur to me. Unfortunately,
> > it is usually assumed that someone who is blind is not going to put
> > together a little play car for a child or a crib for a baby. I wish
> > that I had some skills in the carpentry department so that I could
> > do these things, but that is another story for another mailing list
> > (if one exists).
> >
> > So, in summary, I just felt like maybe a written description would
> > help to shed light on things for others as well as it has for
> > myself.
> >
> > I am very glad to see that it has been helpful!
> >
> > Take care.
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