[orca-list] re: netbeans accessibility

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Hi, list,

Apologies.  I accidentally only replied to one person instead of to
everyone.  Please see my response below on a port of netbeans which
may do the trick.  also , here is a link to the page:

http://sodbeans.sourceforge.net/

Alex M

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:12:39 -0600
Subject: Re: [orca-list] netbeans accessibility
To: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>

You know, if you really need netbeans, you may want to try and track
down a man named Andreas Stefik.  He's out of Washington state, I
believe.  He's part of a group that teaches computer science to blind
people.  Anyway, his group released a self-voicing version of netbeans
they call sodbeans.  I know it works on Windows but have no idea
whether or not it works in Linux.  He's on the program-l list, last I
knew,  and may be able to provide some guidance if you absolutely must
have netbeans for a class or something.  Barring that, Eclipse is
extremely nice.  I'm one of those partial to Emacspeak as well but, if
you are doing a class, you really want to concentrate on learning how
to code and not how to learn your way around something so complex as
emacs or emacspeak until you've got a few lines of code under your
belt.  Eclipse does have something of a learning curve but, I don't
think it's as high for Java programmers as JDE (Emacs' java
development ide) would be for you.

Just my two cents,
Alex M

On 1/29/12, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com> wrote:
> True, but it's not like Eclipse doesn't also have a learning curve!
>
> On 29/01/12 08:22, hackingKK wrote:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > Beyond doubt emacs is salvation and bliss.
> > But it definitely had a learning curve.
> > If that is ok with people then I would say its great.
> > Happy hacking.
> > Krishnakant.
> >
> > On 29/01/12 18:13, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I wouldn't say Eclipse is the only accessible IDE for blind Java
> > > developers as I use to do a fair amount of my Java programming in good
> > > old GNU Emacs, but I agree that Eclipse is preferable over Netbeans.
> > > If you don't absolutely have to program in Netbeans then do yourself a
> > > favor and don't. The people who teach programming courses and write
> > > the course materials don't know anything about software accessibility,
> > > and tend to teach using tools they like and use which often suck
> > > lemons when it comes to screen reader access.
> > >
> > > On 1/29/12, hackingKK<hackingkk gmail com>  wrote:
> > > > Do you absolutely need to use netbeans?
> > > > I would suggest eclipse to be the best choice for programming IDE and
> > > > only accessible choice for blind users.
> > > > Happy hacking.
> > > > Krishnakant.
> >
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