Re: [orca-list] at-spi and at-spi2 and arch linux

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

So does this mean Orca doesn't use brltty as a dependency anymore or
what? It obviously uses at-spi2 for other purposes.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 09:55:24AM +0100, Alejandro Leiva wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Brltty added at-spi2 support for the screen driver from BRLTTY 4.2 release.
>
> Anyway, orca don't use it because orca implements its own braille monitor.
>
> in example, the ubuntu 11.04 dependency list of brltty package
> didn't use that dependency.
>
> brltty
>   Depends: libbrlapi0.5
>   Depends: libc6
>   Depends: libgpm2
>   Depends: libicu44
>   Depends: libncursesw5
>   Depends: libtinfo5
>   Depends: initramfs-tools
>   Depends: lsb-base
>   Suggests: brltty-speechd
>   Suggests: brltty-x11
>   Suggests: console-braille
>   Breaks: udev
>   Replaces: <libbrlapi1>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> El 16/02/12 02:23, Steve Holmes escribió:
> > I don't know why the older at-spi is still being used.  I see that
> > several packages still depend on it and that causes us to have to keep
> > things like gconf, bonobo, and other pre-gonome3 stuff.  Actually,
> > brltty is built with a depends on at-spi where Orca depends on
> > at-spi2-atk and orca-git depends on at-spi2-core.  I probably need to
> > change the orca-git PKGBUILD in AUR.  Python dependencies are a real
> > pain to set correctly.  I haven't been having any problems with Orca
> > but then I don't have a braille display so I may be missing out of the
> > fun<smile>.
> >
> > I think brltty should be built to use at-spi2 instead of the older
> > one.  not sure if brltty can handle a change like that.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:35:54AM +0100, timothyhobbs seznam cz wrote:
> > > I'm looking for certain individuals who commented on this problem in the past:  Michael 
> > > Whapples(mwhapples), Trevor Saunders, Mike Gorse
> > >
> > > Recently, I found that on a vanila arch install, at-spi will not start when at-spi2 is running.  It seems 
> > > that at-spi and at-spi2 on arch do not play nice.  An arch package maintainer changed the dependencies 
> > > and made brltty compile with at-spi2 rather than at-spi.  Apparently this borked things, as was posted 
> > > just last night on this mailing list.  I really don't understand the larger part of this issue.  However, 
> > > I would like to direct knowledgeable people to:
> > >
> > > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28440
> > >
> > > As I said.  I myself don't understand what arch is supposed to do in order to fix this issue and make 
> > > things work out of the box like they do(do they?) on other systems.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Timothy
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