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Oh, man, that sounds painful. I'd have
to hunt down a ppa or something like you said for my home setup on
Ubuntu. On another note, I'm curious about Debian testing. I
wonder if it will be making a switch to the latest and greatest
any time soon. Probably have better luck in Sid. I have Wheezy
at work on a box I"m using to deploy some web applications. On
that box, honestly, just to get the best all-around accessibility
experience, I disabled automatic suggested package installation in
aptitude and just installed gnome-session-fallback. I don't have
to deal with Pulse, my packages are reasonably up to date, I have
Orca 3.4.2 and, I also have speech in the console and Emacspeak
works like a charm to boot. I don't get the newest features but,
I think I have the perfect setup where no environment is
inaccessible to me right now if I need to hop on there and do
something on the machine proper.
Regards, Alex M On 11/30/2012 7:28 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: On 11/30/2012 05:43 PM, Alex Midence wrote:Couldn't you just install from source and remain in Ubuntu? Seems easier than migrating.These are not exactly "normal times": * Due to the GNOME switch to have accessibility always on (which is awesome for all of us), the most recent versions of Orca require the most recent core gnome packages (i.e. not just accessibility libraries, but also Gtk, Clutter, GNOME Shell, etc.) * Due to the GNOME migration to Python 3 for this cycle, and the fact that the distros will be shipping Python 3.3, Orca needs to be compatible with Python 3.3. Unfortunately, that means you need to build speech-dispatcher, liblouis, brlapi, etc. for Python 3.3. (And due to a deprecation or two along with a bug fix or two in Python 3.3 which Python maintainers did not include in Python 3.2, having Orca compatible with Python 3.3 means it breaks in Python 3.2) Long way of saying you more or less need to build a bunch of the entire stack -- and some of what you need (e.g. speech-dispatcher for Python 3) does not yet have a stable release. That's the bad news. Here's the good news: In the long run, we're getting lots of bug fixes, performance enhancements, etc. (e.g. as a result of accessibility always on). In the long run, free software options for Orca users in the graphical desktop will be far better than they have -- possibly ever. Having said all of that, under "normal" circumstances, there'd be the possibility -- albeit one which is slightly risky -- of looking to the next version of the distro for unstable versions of their packages. If those package maintainers are doing their job correctly, you should be able to get all the dependencies and identify where you are at risk for landing in Broken Package Dependency Hell. And you can use your package manager rather than stomping on packages, getting conflicts from multiple versions of the same libraries, etc., etc. But if Ubuntu 13.04 is going to stick with GNOME 3.6 core then the laundry list above of stuff you need to build or acquire packages for ain't gonna be there -- even in unstable. So.... Sorry for the tons of bla, bla, bla, but.... No. It's not easier than migrating right now **if** you want the latest Orca. As I keep saying, if you want to stick with Ubuntu and have the latest Orca, you need a PPA fairy to wave a magic wand and make it so. Take care. --joanie _______________________________________________ orca-list mailing list orca-list gnome org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp --
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