Re: [orca-list] about the new sonar distro

[Hank Smith <hanksmith hanksmith net>]

as long as qt supported and working thats all that matters
I love the gnome classic and missed like nothing else in ubuntu 12
On 8/31/2012 1:37 PM, Jonathan Nadeau wrote:
> I don't use many qt apps. But I do use mumble and I would say it is 
> 99% accessible. Past releases of Ubuntu and qt-at-spi didn't work that 
> well for me. So With mumble it is very accessible now.
>
>  On 08/31/2012 03:06 PM, Hank Smith wrote:
> > what about qt apps?
> > have u tested any qt accessibility yet?
> > Hank
> > On 8/31/2012 12:03 PM, Doug Smith wrote:
> > > Hi, everyone, this is Doug Smith.  Lately, I have been made aware of 
> > > the new sonar Linux distro for the blind.  I have to tell everyone 
> > > this.  I am using it right now, installed on my production machine 
> > > and I am liking what I am seeing.
> > >
> > > I have to give you a really honest opinion of the distro, and I 
> > > will.  There are several characteristics of the system that I really 
> > > like.
> > >
> > > 1. I got the classic version and it is running like a top.  On the 
> > > stock ubuntu with unity 2d, I seem to have had a problem when 
> > > pressing return immediately after entering something into the dash 
> > > panel.  On the other hand, I had a few accessibility problems with 
> > > it.  Not here.  This thing is running so fast that, I would have 
> > > thought it was a new machine if I hadn't know any better.
> > >
> > > 2. ease of installation: This system was so much faster to get 
> > > installed than the stock ubuntu, I couldn't believe it.  Real good 
> > > stuff!!
> > >
> > > 3. On the stock ubuntu with unity 2d, the graphical desktop locked 
> > > up on me.  This really ticks me off, as this kind of thing has been 
> > > a problem since I started working with talking computers 27 years 
> > > ago this month and I still see it sometimes. It happens a lot less 
> > > in text mode than graphical. Not on here.  This thing has not hung 
> > > on me one single time. It's really great.
> > >
> > > 4. Orca never drops on here.  It didn't on the regular ubuntu 
> > > neither.  I want to congratulate the Orca development team on 
> > > stopping that idiotic crashing behavior Orca used to have. It's 
> > > running smooth as silk.
> > >
> > > On the stock ubuntu with unity 2d, the keyboard shortcuts I had to 
> > > set myself were constantly coming undone.  I couldn't depend on 
> > > alt-tab or alt-f4 to be working from session to session. When I 
> > > found out that I had to remove the ~/.gconf/apps/metacity directory 
> > > from my home folder, I thought all would be well.  It wasn't.  I 
> > > still fought a running battle with the window manager over writing 
> > > its config to my home directory.  Then I fixed it. It was a dirty 
> > > hack and a major cludge, but it worked.  I removed this file then, 
> > > as root, did this:
> > >
> > > touch ./.gconf/apps/metacity
> > >
> > > and this created the new file to replace the configuration 
> > > directory.  Well, that wasn't good enough, so I had to put it back 
> > > and using the chmod command, remove all permissions, read, write, 
> > > and execute from all users.  Problem solved.  Not on here.  All the 
> > > keyboard shortcuts have stayed around, even after upgrading the 
> > > system.  It's great.
> > >
> > > 6. On the other side, ubuntu with unity 2d, the sound continually 
> > > muted out on its own from session to session.  I have never seen 
> > > this in my life, and I am not sure if any of you have or not, so I 
> > > will attempt to describe it.  Turn on the machine and do some work. 
> > > All will be well.  When the machine was turned off and allowed to 
> > > cool overnight, then restarted again the next day to do other 
> > > things, no sound.  I had to have some eyes in here so many times it 
> > > was really getting bad. Well, adding pavucontrol and the 
> > > ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev repository together solved the problem. No more 
> > > pulseaudio problems.  I also did this on here, and pulseaudio is 
> > > really not all that hideous.  It works perfectly well except for the 
> > > distortion for a few seconds when it starts.  How does pulseaudio 
> > > avoid this on the live cd? I guess it's just because it's so slow in 
> > > getting Orca and friends started that all that must be out of its 
> > > system before you hear it.
> > >
> > > 7.  This sonar stuff has a really good and fast boot time even 
> > > though I have a few extra daemons on here which start at boot time, 
> > > this thing really starts up fast.
> > >
> > > I hope the author of sonar gets this.  I want to talk to him on 
> > > mangler or something and let him know personally, rather than just 
> > > in writing how good this distro is.  Please keep gnome classic on 
> > > this system, and you've got a lifelong user. If the sighted world is 
> > > going to tell me that I have to use a graphical desktop on my 
> > > machine just to get hold of the same functionality and information 
> > > everyone else has access to, I'll be shot down in flames if they're 
> > > going to tell me what OS or desktop to use.  And, by the way, 
> > > thunderbird accessibility on here is perfect.  I'm using it to write 
> > > this message right now.
> > >
> > >
> > > I just have one question about thunderbird.  How do you set it up 
> > > such that all the messages in a thread are not transmitted back and 
> > > forth every time you send a mail?  I hate that with a passion and I 
> > > hope someone can tell me how to set it up such that I just send what 
> > > I wrote and not a quadrilion other messages attached onto it each 
> > > time I post to a list.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.


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