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Re: [orca-list] Installing gnome and switching from unity to gnome3 in Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04?

On 4/27/2012 12:46 AM, Krishnakant mane wrote:

I did not find any accessibility in gnome3.
I installed it using sudo apt-get install gnome gnome-session-fallback.
I choose it from the login session options and enter password.
After login, I pressed alt +f2 and typed orca.
sure enough, Orca came up talking.
But when I press alt+f1 I just hear overview and nothing else.
I tryed the windows key still same result.
I tryed pressing arrows but nothing happens.
Is there no option like applications, home, and launcher like that in Unity?
What I particularly expected to see is the launcher with most frequently used apps like that in Unity, but 
nothing is spoken.
Am I doing some thing wrong?
happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

  On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:21:57AM -0500, Alex Midence wrote:

Hi, Krishnakant,  Please see responses below:


On 4/26/2012 11:39 AM, Krishnakant mane wrote:

Hi Alex,
I am keen to try out Gnome3.
I have a few questions before I give it a try.
1, will I have gnome3 in the session options along with Ubuntu and Ubuntu2d?  This is necessary so that I can 
switch to what ever I choos at every login.

Yes, but it will be listed as simply gnome and not gnome 3.


2, what is the status of gnome3 accessibility?  can we use it as easily as Unity?  I think to use it we must 
have the menu, usable, should be able to make desktop shortcuts, and overall navigate the file system along 
with other titbits.

It's quite accessible.  Gnome 3 is what Unity copied so it uses
launchers and a search system for your applications.  You don't use
menus and you don't use the desktop much.  When you want to launch
something, you hit alt f1 and type in the name of the app then tab
to get a list of matches form either applications or books.


3, how similar is it to gnome classic?

Completely different.  It is similar to Unity or, rather, Unity is
similar to it.  If you want to try it out without messing up your
log in preferences, simply hit alt f2 from your gnome classic
session and type in the following:

gnome-shell --replace

The system will freeze for a couple of breaths and then, you wil be
in gnome shell.


When you no longer wish to be in it just alt f2 and type gksu shutdown now and press your enter key.  When 
your machine reboots, log in as normal and remember how gnome-shell was.  I rather like it.

Alex M

Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:44:11AM -0500, Alex Midence wrote:

Hi,



If your friend wants Gnome 3, Gnome-classic is not what you are looking for.  You want to do a

sudo apt-get install gnome gnome-session-fallback



This way, you get the gnome-shell which is quite accessible these days and is the true blue gnome 3 
experience.  To enable it, you edit the following two files:



/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf

/var/lib/AccountServices/users/<username>    where username is your actual user name.



In both of these files, change the desktop x-session to gnome or gnome-shell.  Iâve never gotten lightdm to work well for me 
since it doesnât talk and I donât like to just arrow up and down places where there might be no speech.  I did that once and 
accidentally changed my language settings to something like Estonian or something like that and had a devil of a time putting things 
right after that when it came up talking in it.  I donât speak Estonian, you se.  Real pain in the posterior to fix.  I 
donât recommend it.  Changing the lines in the files I referenced above is slightly tedious but quite doable with Gedit or Nano 
both of which are quite accessible.



Best regards,

Alex M





From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:12 AM
To: Portia
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Installing gnome and switching from unity to gnome3 in Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04?




Hi,

Well, there is a couple of ways of doing this. To begin with you should open gnome-terminal and do the 
following.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install gnome-classic

This should download and install gnome-classic for you. At this point you have a couple of ways of setting up 
the default desktop.

1. You can logout and from lightdm you can tab once from the password field, press enter on the sessions 
button, arrow down three times to gnome-classic, press enter, shift+tab back to the password field, enter 
your password, and press enter to log into gnome-classic.

2. You can edit the lightdm configuration settings using a text editor like Nano and replace ubuntu or 
ubuntu2d with gnome-classic, save the configurations, logout, and log back in for Gnome. Sorry, I can't 
remember the files right off my head as I've only did it this way once before. I personally chose  just to 
memorize how to do it from lightdm with or without speech. Which I personally found easier.

Cheers!

On 4/26/2012 1:38 AM, Portia wrote:

Hi all,



I have 2 questions for a friend.



How do you install Gnome 3 in Ubuntu versions 11.10 and 12.04?

How do you switch from Unity to gnome 3?

Thanks,



Portia.



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_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
Yes. You are using Unity keystrokes and they don't work in gnome 3. Maybe this will help:
1. When you hear overview, you are in a search field. type space and you will hear it announced as such. Type the name of the app you want here and it will look for it in your system for you. 2. If you want the Dash, use control alt tab to scroll through the panels and then the arrow keys at each panel through the different applications. 3. Another option for you is to keep cycling through the panels to the applications panel where you will find a menu similar to what you used in old classic Gnome. 

hth,
Alex M
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