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Hi Riv and Christopher, Christopher is on the mark. Vinux addresses the issues of updates by recommending users disable all updates until they have been evaluated by the development team and any issues regarding Orca and any of the speech packages is addressed. Many updates will break Orca. If you use Firefox, you may notice this being illustrated with Firefox's add-ons. Quite often Firefox updates will break some add-ons very much the way Linux distro updates break Orca. Firefox automatically disables any add-ons that are not compatible with it's updates. It's then a matter of waiting for someone to figure a work-around or waiting until Orca developers or Linux developers fix the break. As with Firefox's add-ons, they are then updated and removed from mandatory disabled status. You could try to step back through your updates to a stable spot, then disable updates. Since Linux updates usually are not critical to security, but address compatibility, bug or feature issues, you can safely do this. Vinux is based on the Ubuntu distribution, so if you are using any of the Ubuntu variants or any of the Ubuntu repositories, you can see how this will affect your setup. I use Mint which is an Ubuntu variant. There are other causes for Orca to act up too, depending on distribution, build, version and kernel. Orca is very picky about the types of waters it likes and it's diet! Vinux tries to keep Orca swimming mean and lean! You can check out Vinux and either switch to Vinux or use their ideas and solutions for yourself as they apply to your preferred distro here; distrowatch.com/distribution=vinux. Vinux is actually a project that wishes itself out of existence. When Linux addresses accessibility as a full-time front-line issue, Vinux will simply cease to exist, except for perhaps support for low vision Linux users. Blaine |