Re: [orca-list] Gnome-Shell Distaster!!!

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

How does Gnome's schedule work?  Is there such a thing as an ETA for
gnome 3.2?  Or, is it just a whenever sort of thing you don't hold
your breath for like Debian stable releases that take years and years
to come out?  I'm wondering when Gnome 3.2 will materialize.

Thanks.

Alex M

On 5/9/11, Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com> wrote:
> Yes, thanks for the update.  I guess I had figured, like others, that
> gnpome-shell was an integral part of gnome 3 and therefore would be
> basically ready for prime time and since my distro rolled out gnome 3
> as "production ready," then no time like the present to put it to
> use.  I have no intentions of changing distros just so I can keep
> using gnome 2.32 so why the implied urgency of getting the a11y
> support to work properly in gnome 3.
>
> I may experiment with gnome-shell from time to time in the future so I
> can attempt to create some constructive bug reports; at least I can
> put gnome-shell up temperarially and then uninstall it quickly enough
> to get back to a working machine without much trouble.  It was just
> that yesterday, my experience with gnome-shell was so bad that I
> couldn't have even created a decent bug report to be of much help.  At
> this point, I couldn't even figure out how to navigate around in it,
> to even know how to use it.
> I'll look at this bug report and camp on it for future follow-up and
> notification.
>
> On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 12:41:27PM +0200, Piñeiro wrote:
> > On 05/08/2011 06:16 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > I can't access anything now! Everything I try iether gives me "panel"
> >
> > Yes, this is a reported bug:
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648598
> >
> > > every time I type the tab key or even the run dialog says something
> > > nothing now.  After I did a shift+ctrl+F3 to get back to a good
> > > working text console to edit this message, I tried to go back to
> > > review the mess in more detail and now I can't get hardly any speech
> > > at all.  Orca really fell over on this one! At this point, I can't do
> > > anything in GNOME! I guess I could uninstall gnome-shell and hopefully
> > > I might get back to that broken fallback stuff.
> > > I thought gnome-shell was ready for use with Orca; was I wrong in that
> > > assumtion?
> >
> > Not sure how did you come to that conclusion. (Although it is part
> > my fault as I didn't write a GNOME Shell accessibility status post
> > as I said.)
> >
> > It was not planned to have GNOME Shell fully accessible for GNOME 3.
> >
> > And in fact the current minimum support is somewhat recent.
> >
> > And although it is minimum, it allow to test GNOME Shell with Orca
> > and start to report bugs(ie: joanmarie already reported about 3-4
> > bugs).
> >
> > FYI, in January, Orca didn't react *at all* with GNOME Shell.
> >
> > In summary: accessibility status for GNOME Shell == work in progress.
> >
> > > Thanks for any help here.
> >
> > It is supposed that the fallback option was both for hw issues and
> > accessibility issues.
> >
> > BR
> >
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> >
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