Re: [orca-list] Website layouts and orca

[Dave Hunt <ka1cey gmail com>]

Also, don't forget the special Firefox 'find' commands, like '/' for 
text search, and "'" for search (links-only).  I make extensive use of 
these on familiar pages.


-Dave

On 21/06/11 15:51, Thomas Ward wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> As you discovered Orca reads the web page as it is displayed on screen
> rather than reformatting them as the Windows screen readers do. Its
> really not that difficult once you get use to it.
>
> For instance, if you have a table you can simply use the left and
> right arrow keys to move from column to column or row by row.
>
> To give you an example of what I mean in gmail, which I'm using right
> now, there are a number of buttons at the top of the e-mail message
> such as Reply, Reply to All, Print, and Delete. Since these buttons
> are all in a row from left to right all I have to do is first use the
> up or down arrow keys to locate that row of buttons, and then once I'm
> on it use the left and right arrow keys to cycle through the buttons
> in that row. Once I find the one I want i press enter to activate it.
>
> The same thing applies to a table of links. On my website I have a
> header on every ppage containing a table of links like Home, News,
> Products, etc. All you have to do with Orca is up or down arrow
> through the rows of links until you find the correct row and then use
> the left or right arrow to move through the columns until you locate
> the one you want. Its no biggy.
>
> HTH
>
>
> On 6/21/11, Andy B.<sonfire11 gmail com>  wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I am sort of confused. I do web development for a living. I recently
> > migrated to ubuntu permanently because of a Windows crash that wiped my
> > drive out totally. I am used to the way that JAWS, WE, NVDA and all of
> > the other types of windows based screen readers lay out the pages
> > virtual buffer. In this case, by default they are set to display a
> > single element on a line by itself. Examples are individual links, table
> > columns flash players, headings and so on.
> >
> > It looks like orca lays it out just like a sighted person were to see
> > it. The problem is that it gets very confusing to find/get to different
> > places on the page and it is hard to understand the layout of the page
> > itself. An example is in drupal 7. When signed in as super user (user1),
> > and looking at the homepage of a stock install, it looks like you have
> > headings on the left side of the screen and links on the right side of
> > the screen that are somehow related to the headings on the left. Like I
> > said, I am used to being fed a page with individual elements on a line
> > by itself. Does anyone have any ideas how I can get over this and be
> > able to get around on pages just as fast?
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