Re: [orca-list] Website layouts and orca

["mattias" <mj mjw se>]

In nvda you can select screen layout  and the other

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Website layouts and orca


There are times I definitely like the way Orca presents the layout of web
pages. In Google Calendar for example, when I'm looking at the list of
attendees for a meeting, I can tell which buttons and links are associated
with each attendee by using flat review. At other times, it's made reading a
page a challenge, such as when the text of an article is in one column of a
table and links to other articles runs down the side of a page in another
column. Maybe I just need to learn how to navigate HTML tables in Orca
better.

BTW, I must be mistaken, but I thought NVDA presented web pages in a fashion
similar to Orca. I've seen others mention that it doesn't though, and I
haven't used NVDA on the web much, so I just must be mistaken.

On 21/06/11 13:56, Andy B. wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I am sort of confused. I do web development for a living. I recently 
> migrated to ubuntu permanently because of a Windows crash that wiped 
> my drive out totally. I am used to the way that JAWS, WE, NVDA and all 
> of the other types of windows based screen readers lay out the pages 
> virtual buffer. In this case, by default they are set to display a 
> single element on a line by itself. Examples are individual links, 
> table columns flash players, headings and so on.
>
> It looks like orca lays it out just like a sighted person were to see 
> it. The problem is that it gets very confusing to find/get to 
> different places on the page and it is hard to understand the layout 
> of the page itself. An example is in drupal 7. When signed in as super 
> user (user1), and looking at the homepage of a stock install, it looks 
> like you have headings on the left side of the screen and links on the 
> right side of the screen that are somehow related to the headings on 
> the left. Like I said, I am used to being fed a page with individual 
> elements on a line by itself. Does anyone have any ideas how I can get 
> over this and be able to get around on pages just as fast? 
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