Re: [orca-list] VOIP programs that work well with Orca

["mattias" <mj mjw se>]

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kyle" <kyle4jesus gmail com>
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] VOIP programs that work well with Orca


> Mangler is supposed to work very well with Orca, and for me it did until I 
> tried to chat with it and it died. Perhaps a bad version. I may try it 
> again. Mangler is a Ventrilo client, however, and therefore is subject to 
> breakage if the proprietary protocol changes.
>
> Perhaps the best voice over IP client I have found so far is SFLPhone. It 
> can run minimized in the notification panel and it's very easy to use. 
> Works great with Orca from my personal experience. SFLPhone, unlike 
> Mangler or the dreaded Skype, is a SIP client, so it is truly free and 
> standards compliant. No need to go round and round in circles with dirty 
> hacks or wait for a developer to reverse engineer a protocol again if 
> something breaks. No need to have two programs running at once just so you 
> can use one to talk to the other. It works out of the box, and all you 
> need is a SIP account, which is free of cost and easy to find. And just 
> like email, you will be able to talk to anyone else who has a SIP account, 
> no matter what server they use.
>
> Also, if SFLPhone doesn't work for you, I found Linphone to be quite 
> usable as well. Linphone is also a SIP client, and the only problem I 
> found with it is that I couldn't start it minimized. Otherwise, I actually 
> found it somewhat easier to use than SFLPhone.
>
> Lastly, I wouldn't hold my breath for Skype. It uses proprietary and 
> potentially insecure protocols that, according to Skype's terms of 
> service, can route your conversation through other people's computers or 
> route other people's conversations through your computer. Skype is also 
> seriously behind in development of the Linux software version, perhaps 
> even to the point of not caring whether they support it or not. At this 
> point, you have to keep the Skype software running in order to even use it 
> to talk through pidgin or any of the other hacks that can be used to 
> communicate with its rather lacking API, so you might as well use a 
> separate program or even use SIP directly through Empathy or Pidgin. Note 
> that I would love to be corrected on any of these points, considering it 
> was at the beginning of this year that I did my research that came to this 
> conclusion, and some of these things could have changed by now. I truly 
> hope they have. Still, my overall recommendation would be to use SIP or 
> another free and open protocol, help to improve it by letting developers 
> know of any problems you find either with the protocol itself, with the 
> application you're using or with its compatibility with Orca, and try to 
> convince as many people as you can to do the same. After all, open and 
> free protocols, like open and free applications, can continue to be usable 
> if something goes wrong with one server or one version of a program. On 
> the other hand, Skype could shut down tomorrow and no one would ever be 
> able to use it, because it would be impossible to get another server up 
> and running or to figure out the protocol enough to reroute it.
>
> Just my $0.02, hope it was useful to feed the fish if nothing else. LOL.
> ~Kyle
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