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Re: [orca-list] Use of non-speech sounds for navigation...

I am starting to think somewhere to draw together what people seem to think would be useful.
One theme running through up to now seems to be, could be useful for encountering or entering and leaving elements/controls.
I initially said internet only as orca maintains the layout of the page so you may be on a line with an edit box, link or button but may not actually be in/on that element. I personally don't feel quite the same need when using GTK applications as orca only announces the control when you are in it (focus mode you tab around and so always end up on a control).
I could also imagine may be line breaks being useful (may be in both focus tracking and flat review), but there doesn't seem to be such a strong feeling for that. I've just realised speakup uses beeps for end of lines and top and bottom boundaries, and I hadn't really noticed although I make use of them.
I think that speakup example is a good example of them being done well. They shouldn't intrude into the users experience where they are noticed, if done well one shouldn't be aware they are making use of it (generally why good software gets little thanks, the user forgets they're using it and concentrates on the task they need to do). 

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

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That would be an interesting idea.

Oh BTW, please reply to the list when replying to a message.  If I
hadn't altered the reply-to address on this message, your response
would have never been seen on the list.

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 01:20:58PM -0500, Scott Berry wrote:

Also what would be really awesome is having some kind of sound theme
for headings, lists and tables.


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Yeah, I was just going to mention Emacspeak also.  He refers to these
sounds as "Audio icons." One such place I think good for these sounds
would be if you were typing shifted alpha keys while caps lock is
still on; I can't think of how many times I started typing something
and forgetting to turn caps lock off.  I think I like the idea of
focus control changes too.

But I also share the same concerns for not being able to recognize
some audio icons and their meanings.

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 05:14:13AM +1200, Rob Hill wrote:

Hello Sasikumar and list,

You may wish to look at the emacspeak screen reader, where such sounds
are implemented, with the option to turn them off.  I feel they are
very helpful.


Regards,

Rob




Sasikumar (???/???) M writes:

Hi,

This is based on something I read in a journal. The paper

claims that using

non-speech sounds for things like navigation makes screen readers more
friendly for the visually impaired. I think one advantage is

that these

sounds (a screech for up arrow, a bell for the enter-key,

etc) are shorter

and easier to comprehend than the full word/phrase which will be used
otherwise. Such sounds enable you to overlay them along with

normal speech,

without spoiling the message. Since my team at Mumbai is

doing work on Orca,

I wanted to know from you -- particularly the visually

impaired on this list

-- as to your thoughts on this idea.

We can then formulate a set of proper and well coordinated

sounds for 5-10

navigational tasks, and implement them.

- Sasi
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