Re: [orca-list] date and time keybindings
- From: Isaac Porat <isaac porat me uk>
- To: Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>
- Cc: orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] date and time keybindings
- Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 15:13:18 +0100
Hi
I was not suggesting for a moment to clone JAWS or anything else. In
fact NVDA that I referred to is not a clone of JAWS far from it - it is
well designed screen reader with pragmatic approach to best practice and
familiarity with other screen readers.
I am not comparing screen readers here for performance just the approach
to key bindings.
I have been on this list for a couple of years, learned a lot and
enjoyed following the tremendous progress of Orca and the accessibility
of gnome. Like other lists some people coming, some people going but I
would say that the community size on this list and other relevant ones
is probably of the same order.
The community needs to grow not so much to compete with other OS but to
have a critical mass so that software vendors care about accessibility
in Linux more. Examples, Firefox is broken for the past six months and
Adobe readers are not accessible both are well sorted under Windows with
the iAccessible2 new interface.
Regards
Isaac
On 02/05/2010 12:58, Michael Whapples wrote:
Jason,
You reminded me of one thing I intended to mention but forgot to,
providing resources for those who want to learn about orca and gnome
is probably of greater value. Its for this reason I started to record
some audio tutorials, I wish my resources would allow these to be done
more quickly.
In fact I would say trying to make something too familiar with subtle
differences can actually make the transition harder. I will give a
personal example. In gnome to get to the desktop you press ctrl+alt+d
in Windows you press windows+d, there's still times when I use windows
and press ctrl+alt+d (I mainly use linux and occasionally use
windows). Compare this with something very different, the desktop menu
systems, gnome press alt+f1 and select the menu you want to enter,
windows hit windows key (or ctrl+esc) and only one menu, I don't think
I have confused those (they differ sufficiently that I think of them
as two different tasks).
Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Jason White wrote:
Isaac Porat<isaac porat me uk> wrote:
The fact of the matter is that only a tiny fraction of people use
Linux and even smaller among blind people and the smoother the
transition the better.
Not at the expense of worse defaults for everybody, however.
Transitions are
short-lived, for each user, whereas the amount of time spent actually
using
the software, once learned, should be much greater; thus it makes
sense to
prefer defaults that are considered better for users who have made the
transition already, while providing resources to help newcomers to
learn what
is new and different about Orca.
Of course, in the case of key bindings, these should be easy to
change anyway,
as discussed earlier.
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