Re: [orca-list] broken accesibility (was help building at-spi)
- From: Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>
- To: orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] broken accesibility (was help building at-spi)
- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:25:48 -0700
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That environment sounds so old and out of date! If I had half those
experiences, I would consider completely re-installing the system with
a more current distro. Last year I had similar problems, not with
being so out of date but I messed with Debian Unstable and didn't know
what I was doing when I tried down grading some packages. I ended up
being unable to start X, let alone any other parts of gnome. I then
decided it would be easier to just start over and of course make sure
all my valuable data was backed up.
I have to say with all those experiences and even a busted Debian
Unstable, Speakup rolled along in the console beautifully and didn't
skip a beat. That's another reason I value having console access;
Xwindows can break just like the other Windows we learn to know and
hate but the text console running a Speakup modified kernel or loaded
modules is solid as a rock!
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:59:14AM -0500, aerospace1028 hotmail com wrote:
greetings,
I have busted accessibility on my ubuntu hardy machine.
When attempting to build orca (2-22) from the git repository, I ran into some problems at the at-spi step.
First autoconf claimed my intltool was too old (it wanted 0.40.0 and I had 0.37.1). After failing to
successfully build intltool0.40.0 from source, I was able to get intltool0.41.0 to install from the karmic
repositories onto my hard machine. This time whe running "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr
--libexecdir=/usr/lib/at-spi", autoconf issued an error that my dbus-glib-1 was out-of-date. Again I
managed to isntall libdbus-glib-1-2 and libdbus-glib-1-dev from the karmic repositories. Now at-spi did
build and install and I moved onto orca.
pulling and building orca from git provided no obsticles. As I did with atk, and at-spi, after git clone,
I performed a git checkout -b origin/gnome-2-22 (since I'm running gnome-2.22).
After finishing the make install on orca itself, I quit my running orca and relaunched it from the run
dialog. I returned to the gnome-terminal to double-check I had the new orca. To my surprise, "orca
--version" claimed I was running 2.29.4 (not the 2.22.3 I had expected).
I did a little exploration to see if I could find any major issues with this mis-matched gnome and orca
combination. For the most part, it seemed to be working (there were some parts of the openoffice dialogs
that couldn't be read, but I'm used to that).
I had to shut down my machine and leave for a while. When i booted back in, after entring in my ID and
password, an error message popped up saying that at-spi was requested by this session, but at-spi was
unavailable (according to some sighted assistance). I had some sighted assitance click the "OK" button
(pressing ENTER on the kyboard did nothing). When the desktop came up, orca was there (kind of). I could
still get feedback in the gnome-terminal, bu orca would ot read the menus in the top panel of the desktop
nor the run dialog.
I double-checked in the atk, at-spi and orca build directories and all three said the working branch was
2-22. In all three cases "git branch" only listed master and 2-22 (with the asterisk in front of 2-22) and
"git status | head -1" confirmed origin/gnome-2-22 was the working branch.
I proceeded to run make uninstall in all three build directories.
I then tried to install atk and at-spi, but apt said they were already the newest versions. I forced a
"apt-get --reinstall install atk at-spi". I paid close attention and confirmed that both were installed
from the hardy repositories.
However, when I went to the shutdown menu item and tabbed to where the log-out icon should be, I did return
to the log-in screen; but again when I entered in my ID and password, I got the at-spi unavailabel message.
Entering in "orca" or "/usr/in/orca" in the run dialog failed to bring up any speech (it did not say these
were invalid entries: I could see the dialog box disappear as if these programs were actually launched).
When bringing up the gnome-terminal, I tried orca -t. I did not get the speech output I normally get, and
I did otice some text pop up, but it didn't appear to be the long list of language options; it only took up
two-three lines.
At the moment, I don't have any orca capacity on my ubuntu machine. Does anyone have a clue how I can fix
this?
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