Re: [orca-list] An Open Letter to Oracle on the Topic Of Accessibility
- From: hackingKK <hackingkk gmail com>
- To: Willie Walker <walker willie gmail com>
- Cc: orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] An Open Letter to Oracle on the Topic Of Accessibility
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:25:22 +0530
Making interfaces accessible is just the last thing, although very
important.
But sustaining a constant development of asistive technologies like
screen reader is like the lifeline of access to computers for disabled.
Infact I agree that we should look to the future and try finding
alternatives for sustaining development of Orca.
It is just that Oracle should know that accessibility is a
responsibility (and also a business if we think a bit narrowly ).
Ignoring an important aspect of providing access to information
technology for disabled should strongly be opposed.
Perhaps Oracle has gone on the wrong track and unless they realise their
mistake now, they won't do it later.
And if at all we are to expect Oracle reverce their decision, it can
only happen if they are shown what they are doing wrong.
I am not personally against any organisation or individuals, just
against the policy. I am dead sure that many people in oracle might not
be even realising the value of Orca and don't really care if such
technology even matters for the blind.
My only suggestion to Oracle would be that they (management ) close
their eyes for a day and try working with a computer even with their
so-called accessible interfaces. They will soon realise that it is very
essential for sustaining the progress of Orca screen reader.
and I realy hope they do soon.
And afterall there might be blind people who will use oracle products in
Future,Will oracle guys not like orca to grow so that their products
become even more usable to blind people?
I am sorry if any oracle personal got hert by my comments, but I spoke
the feelings of thousands of blind people here In India who find orca as
a great hope for cost effective and free screen reader.
It really herts to know that for an obviously narrowminded business
need, a certain organisation stops accessibility technology development.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 11:08 PM, Willie Walker wrote:
I don't think we can make blanket accusations about Oracle with respect
to accessibility in general. For example, my understanding is that each
Oracle product team creating a user interface tests it for
accessibility. I believe Oracle's model of keeping accessible design
and testing close to the source is the right way to go.
It's possible Oracle may end up being a supporter in the future, but
casting aspersions against them may end up reducing the chances they
will do so. Let's try to keep our eyes out of the rear view mirror. We
need to look out the front window and channel our energy towards
creating opportunities to sustain this work appropriately.
Will
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 22:47 +0530, hackingKK wrote:
I have given up on Oracle.
They don't think blind people deserve an opportunity to use computers
for their daily work. For them blind people (and perhaps other disabled
people ) don't need any improvement in their employability or standard
of life.
Let's try and find out alternative options which can keep orca alive and
going on.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 10:36 PM, Aaruni wrote:
Hi Joani, could you please give the url for the petitions?
Thanks,
Aruni.
On 08/02/2010, Steve Holmes<steve holmes88 gmail com> wrote:
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This is an excellent open letter. I could have never written anything
as elegant as this. I've been away from my system since last night so
have a bit of catching up to do. I have a blog that has been pretty
much dormant til now so this will give me some ideas to post about:).
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 03:05:25PM -0500, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hey again.
I wanted to thank those of you who left comments on my blog on this
topic, and I'd encourage those of you who have not but who care about
the future of GNOME accessibility in general, and Orca in particular, do
the same. After all, I guarantee you that Oracle could care less about
me; it is my sincerest hope that they care about you, the user.
Also, for those of you with your own blogs who have written similar
entries on this topic, please do not be shy about "shameless self
promotion" in the form of adding a link to your entry in the comments of
my blog. Alternatively, send me a link to what you've written so that I
can point to it within my entry.
My hope is that what remains of this weekend continues to see voices of
concern, in writing, in blogs and in comments. The next step would be to
ensure that our collective voices get noticed by those who need to
notice them. :-)
Thanks again guys. Hopefully soon we'll be able to get back to the
business of actually working on accessibility, rather than trying to
prevent its demise.
--joanie
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 11:14 -0500, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Hey guys.
For what it's worth, I just wrote a blog entry on Oracle's decision. "An
Open Letter to Oracle on the Topic Of Accessibility" can be found at:
http://bit.ly/oracle-a11y
For the sake of convenience, here is the text of that entry:
Dear Oracle:
You don't know me, so please permit me a brief introduction: I'm Joanie.
By day, I'm an assistive technology specialist working with individuals
who are blind or visually impaired. By night, weekend, and holiday for
almost four years now, I've been a GNOME community contributor working
primarily on the Orca screen reader, a project led by Sun's
Accessibility Program Office.
Working with the engineers at Sun, both inside and outside of the APO,
has been an honor for a variety of reasons, not least of which is our
shared common belief: Access isn't a privilege; it's a right. Towards
that end, Sun Microsystems strived to ensure that ALL users have access
to software and information.
Does Oracle plan to do the same?
Sun Microsystems believed that these things shouldn't be denied to those
who aren't employed, or who don't live in the "right" country, or who
don't speak the "right" language, or who cannot afford to purchase
thousands of dollars' worth of access technology.
What does Oracle believe?
Through its significant, ongoing contributions to the GNOME desktop, Sun
Microsystems has made computer access possible for many individuals with
disabilities, from all walks of life, all over the world.
Will Oracle embrace the opportunity to continue this important work?
My assumption was yes. In fact, I was feeling quite hopeful. After all,
the past few years have been hard on Sun. But with Larry Ellison's
promise of increased investment in the Sun brand, and Oracle's strong
commitment to accessibility, things would finally be turning around: If
one under-funded APO could accomplish everything that it has, what could
the two combined and properly-funded APOs achieve? At the very least
we'd be able to finally get a handle on all of the accessibility
challenges facing GNOME 3.
I was wrong. :-(
Last week, Oracle laid off two more members of Sun's already-decimated
APO. One of those let go happened to be both the Orca project lead and
the GNOME Accessibility project lead, Willie Walker. I truly hope this
was an oversight on Oracle's part, and one that will be rectified very
soon. Because if it is not, and if no other company steps forward to
continue this work, the accessibility of the GNOME desktop will become
the open source equivalent of an unfunded mandate, doomed ultimately to
fail.
Oracle's decision threatens to leave many individuals with disabilities
around the world without access to a modern desktop environment. I find
that tragic.
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Orca-list mailing list
Orca-list gnome org
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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
_______________________________________________
Orca-list mailing list
Orca-list gnome org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
_______________________________________________
Orca-list mailing list
Orca-list gnome org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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