Re: [orca-list] Firefox 3.6 status update

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
On the point of sometimes orca reading the wrong firefox/gecko window, I 
have found that on earlier versions of firefox and occasionally in 
thunderbird. It tends to be so unpredictable I can't trace down what 
situation seems to cause it, but using something which uses gecko 
directly (eg. tab) can help get orca to realise which one we're in.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey all.
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> I wanted to update you on where things are (as best as I can tell)
> regarding Firefox 3.6.
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> 1. Because it seems distros will be shipping Firefox 3.6 with GNOME
> 2.30, we've decided to change the default setting of "Grab focus on
> objects when navigating" from True to False to make life easier for Orca
> users who are not on this list keeping up with such issues.
>
> This change has just been committed to master. Note that I've only done
> this for the Gecko/Firefox script. At the moment, the default setting
> for Yelp and Thunderbird are still True. If that changes, I'll let you
> know.
>
> Reminder: If you are using Firefox 3.5 or Firefox 3.6 from before 30th
> Sept, you *do* want to grab focus (i.e. this setting should be checked).
> If you are using Firefox 3.6 from 30th Sept or later, you do *not* want
> to grab focus (i.e. this setting should be unchecked).
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> 2. The bookmarks breakage is a Mozilla regression that was introduced in
> the 14th July build of Firefox 3.6. The bug occurs even without Orca
> running. Other widgets keep stealing focus, and there's nothing we can
> do about that on our end, unfortunately. For those interested, here's
> the bug I've filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546053
>
> 3. The issue of tabbing not moving you to where you think it should, and
> Alt+Tabbing out of Firefox and back into it moving you to someplace
> other than where you were is a Mozilla regression that was introduced in
> the 11th June build of Firefox 3.6. I cannot think of any way to hack
> around this problem in the meantime. Therefore I've filed this bug:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546068
>
> 4. The issues reported about Orca no longer reporting form fields in
> Firefox 3.6 seem to have been the result of Gecko changing the table
> hierarchy a bit in a way that we were not counting on in Orca. I have
> committed the fix we needed to make to master. If there are other
> label-guessing issues that have been introduced in Firefox 3.6 (i.e.
> they are not a problem in 3.5), those are news to me. Please file a bug
> (after searching to see if someone else has already reported it).
>
> I believe that just means I have Jacob's issue of Orca presenting info
> from a page other than the one you're in. If I'm wrong about that being
> the last of the 3.6 issues, please remind me of what I've forgotten
> and/or file a bug if it happens to be a new issue.
>
> Thanks guys! Take care.
> --joanie
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