Re: [orca-list] getting started with orca

[Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes stommepoes nl>]

hi Jed,
I'll have to admit, I've gone through the Orca pages at gnome and I
still can't figure out how to hear hidden labels in forms and title
attributes and that sort of thing in Firefox... this coming from someone
who is used to a "forms mode" in JAWS.  Something important and
different about Orca is, if I understand correctly, that there is no
virtual buffer like Jaws and W-E have.  Orca just flat-out reads the
page.  I would think this means Orca can skirt some of the issues the
other readers have regarding things like AJAX and other non-refresh
screen updates.
You can make your own shortcut keys for in Firefox (and elsewhere) but I
don't know how to do things like hear titles of inputs where the title
is taking the place of the label... something we developers are told we
can get away with because JAWS and W-E are cool with that.  A bit
dangerous I guess, since there are more than just 2 readers in the
world! :-)

Subscribing to the mailing list and just reading the posts also help me
get a better feel for Orca.

-Mallory

On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 13:11 -0700, David E. Price wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Welcome to the world of Linux!
>
> If you go to the Orca wiki (http://live.gnome.org/Orca), you will find 
> lots of information on how to install and use Orca. There are also many 
> links to audio tutorials that will give you a feel for how Orca works.
>
> As Steve said, the best way to approach things is to read through the 
> content that is available through links at the end of this message. If 
> you can't find the answers to your questions there, bring your questions 
> to this list and many people will be happy to help. However, if you keep 
> asking lots of questions that can be quickly and easily answered from 
> the wiki or other Orca resources online, people will stop responding to 
> your questions. I'm sorry if this seems hostile, but it is just the way 
> a mailing list like this works.
>
> Good luck,
>
> dave
>
>
> On 02/06/2010 01:00 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Jed here, brand new to the linux thing.  Wanted to talk to a few of you and
> > get some input on getting started, ready to dive head over heals in to linux
> > and learn as much as i can.
> > I'm a window-eyes user right now, but wnna start learning this.
> > Curious how orca works and stuff.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jed
> >
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