Re: [orca-list] Inconsistent behavior in flat review mode across applications

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

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I presently would prefer the way it works in gnome-terminal or gedit
or even nautilus for that matter.  In fact, as I edit this message in
a terminal session editting with emacs, I very much like the current
behavior of moving the review cursor along as I type.  

My experiences with Firefox seems that the flat review always comes up
on the File of the menu bar.  it does not track focus at all.  I don't
recall if it will catch up when I press the minus key or not.  What
would be a good compromise would be to have something like what
speakup has.  It has a key to "Park or Unpark" the cursor.  Speakup
uses the minus key to do this; when parked, the cursor stays where you
left it.  That would be like your filename analogy below.  When
unparked, then it behaves like the cursor does in gnome-terminal.

Hmm, I wonder if one could use Orca's bookmarks to hold a favored
position like that filename example.  Just hop back to the file name
with the bookmark key and of course, review by just reviewing while
type or hitting the minus key if it doesn't get there.  Well, I should
clarify a bit better; use the bookmark key to find the filename, check
spelling or whatever, then hit the minus key to get back to your
typing and compare what you typed or where you left off.  Make sense?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:09:58AM -0600, David E. Price wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Flat review mode behaves differently in Firefox/Thunderbird than in  
> other applications (in this case, gnome-terminal and gedit). In  
> gnome-terminal and gedit, flat review always starts from the point of  
> focus within the application, and whenever that point of focus is  
> changed, flat review automatically moves to that point of focus. For  
> example, let's say you want to manipulate a file in gnome-terminal, but  
> the file name is similar enough to many other file names in the  
> directory so that auto-completion won't help very much. You navigate to  
> the file name you want, spell it out, then start typing the file name.  
> At this point, flat review moves back to the command line.  If you are  
> unsure of dots, dashes, capitalization, etc., you must navigate with  
> flat review back to the file name once again to get the information you  
> need.
>
> In Firefox/Thunderbird, once you enter flat review mode, flat review's  
> focus will not return to the application's focus unless you press  
> numpad-minus (desktop layout).
>
> So, three  questions:
>
> 1.)  Can anyone else duplicate this behavior?
>
> 2.) Which of these behaviors is the designed behavior?
>
> 3.) Which of these behaviors would the Orca community prefer?
>
> I'm guessing, but I think the designed behavior is the one exhibited in  
> gnome-terminal and gedit. However, I would prefer the second behavior,  
> since there are times when I would like to review information away from  
> the application's focus and be able to return immediately to the  
> application's point of focus. However, I recognize that this would take  
> a lot more processing, as the flat review cursor's "model" of the screen  
> content would have to be continuously updated.
>
> I'll file bugs and/or RFEs as needed, based on the responses to those  
> questions.
>
> thanks,
>
> dave
>
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