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Re: [orca-list] Debian Desktop - Top Panel?

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I'm currently using Squeeze which is testing after Lenny going live.
I just checked and I do have gnome-panel and gnome-panel-data
installed.  I can't verify right now because I'm remotely connected to
this box via ssh but when I get home tonight, I can retry the
ctrl-alt-tab to see what sequence I get.  All I know is before with
Debian, I never got to the top of the desktop.  I only could toggle
between the desktop body and the bottom panel.  I have no idea what
else I need to change or if it even matters.  I just figured if there
indeed is a top panel, I should be able to get there with ctrl-alt-tab
or otherwise by chance maybe Orca had some problems.

I thought someone else said here on the list Debian didn't have a top
panel.  If that were the case, I can stop looking for something that
isn't there.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:09:04AM -0500, Alonzo Cuellar wrote:

hello Steve,

Yes, there is a top panel. When I used debian lenny and Debian Sid I had  
the top panel on both versions. I do not however remember if i  
experienced any problems when installing gnome and having either to  
switch themes in order to get the top panel to appear or make sure  
compiz was not on. In any case yes Debian does have a top panel. If you  
are using Sid and you do not see a top panel then its possible you do  
not have gnome-panel installed or that something is broken  . I'm not  
usrei fi its the same problem in squeeze,. I don't think it would be  
though, but I can't really tell you since I'm now using arch linux.

Greedings,
alonzo

On 03/18/2009 07:00 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:

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I don't know about switching themes or not but I'm just trying to find
out if there is supposed to be a top panel or not.  If there isn't
one, then no problem.  If there is one and I can't get there, then
there is a problem with Orca.  That's why I'm asking all this.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:31:42AM -0500, Alonzo wrote:
   

You might switch the theme and see if that helps. I believe i had to do that when i used debian. If gnome 
panel is installed that it... unless your using unstable and something nroke. I never experienced any 
severe issues though when using unstable.

Alonzo

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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Debian Desktop - Top Panel?
From: Steve Holmes<steve holmes88 gmail com>
Date: 03/13/2009 10:04 PM

I wanna keep this on the list so others can chime in if they have
anything.  The next time I'm back in Linux, I will check the control-alt
tab sequence.  I actually thought that was what I did to get into the
bottom panel but don't remember for sure right now.  I just know that I
can't get into the top panel if there is one.  That's why my question in
the first place.  I can't seem to do anything to get to a top panel.

On 3/13/2009 2:48 AM, James&  Nash wrote:
     

Ubuntu does Steve, so I would imagine that would Debian too. Have you
tried Ctrl + Alt + Tab to cycle throgh the various options.

Just as an aside, I have noticed that using Orca 2.25.92, Orca sometimes
will not read the system menu. It will do after a couple of tries at
navigating to it but I wonder if these problems are connected?

Take cafre

james


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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Debian Desktop - Top Panel?


       

Yeah, that works fine to navigate around in the main body of the
desktop but for some distros, there is a top and bottom panel. On my
Debian system, I can use the tab key to get me to the bottom panel but
from what I can tell on my Debian box there is no top panel or Orca
won't navigate to it with the tab key. Am I missing something or does
Debian not implement a top panel of the desktop?

On 3/11/2009 12:20 PM, James&  Nash wrote:
         

yes as far as I know, using arrow keys is standard - at least it is
for me.

James

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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Debian Desktop - Top Panel?


           

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Well, I'm using the default schemes, whatever those are and I never
moved anything around. Is there any easier way to "find" the top bar
or any of its contents? If one should choose a different theme, what
would be the best choice? I would think Orca should work with the
defaults that got installed. The only other thing I could think of is
maybe I need to install another package or two?

Also in a similar vane, is the menu structure from alt-f1 a single
vertical tree? When I used Dropline-gnome under Slackware, there was 3
or 4 pull-downs across, kind of like in MS windows. In my case, it is
all navigated by going up and down and using the right arrow key to
get into the sub menus. Is this standard behavior for Debian users?

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 03:07:59PM -0600, Alonzo wrote:
             

hello Steven,

Yes, it has a top panel. You may wantot try changing your desktop
background. Just Alt-f1, locate preferences and appearance. once
there,
change your background. I know orca does not speak and tell you the
background names, but you can test and see which one works for you. It
coudl alsy be that your panels are moved around. If i remember
correctly,
if your panels are not in the default location, they will not be
anounced by Orca.

Alonzo

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes"
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Does the gnome desktop in Debian actually have a top panel? When I do
a Ctrl-Alt-D, I get focused to the desktop as expected but when I
keep
pressing Ctrl-Alt-Tab, I only rotor between the main part of the
desktop and the bottom panel. Is this proper behavior or is there a
bug some place? I can't tell if there is actually a top bar
showing on
the desktop or not. I'm running Debian Lenny with Experimental
version
of gnome-orca.
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