Re: [orca-list] eclipse and status line

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Thanks Jose!

Yep - looks like eclipse isn't putting things in a status bar.  So, 
Orca's default code won't find it.  In order to get this working with 
eclipse, it looks like either eclipse needs to be modified to put things 
in a real status bar object or a custom script for Orca will need to be 
written so its where am I code can discover the status-bar-like-thing in 
eclipse.

If you are a programmer, would you like to give this a try?  I think 
what you'd need to do is create a script for eclipse that merely 
provides a custom WhereAmI class that overrides the _getStatusBar method.

Will

Jose Vilmar Estacio de Souza wrote:
> Hi Will,
>
> With help of my son I could verify that the information that I am 
> looking for is present in a component that is announced by orca as panel.
> This component has information like line and column number where the 
> cursor is positioned, information about presence of erros in the line 
> and etc.
> I suspected that eclipse team did not code this component as a status bar.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 15-03-2009 22:21, Willie Walker wrote:
> > It turns out I was able to get a copy of eclipse 3.4.0 for OpenSolaris 
> > 2008.11 b109 rather easily, so I was able to do some quick digging.
> >
> > I'm not seeing the same application name strangeness you are, but I do 
> > see the NULL children problem.  I'm also not finding anything of role 
> > status bar in the hierarchy.
> >
> > Do you have sighted assistance that could verify a status bar exists 
> > in the UI where you're trying to find a status bar?  In addition, if 
> > you could take a screen shot (press PrintScreen) of the window you're 
> > observing, it would be great.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> > Willie Walker wrote:
> > > Hi Jose:
> > >
> > > The suspicious things are the strange application name and the NULL 
> > > children.  I've never dug into eclipse to figure out how it might be 
> > > interacting with AT-SPI, so I'm not sure what might be going wrong.  
> > > It might be an AT-SPI infrastructure change that caused the problem, 
> > > but I'm not sure.
> > >
> > > If you want to file a bug with Orca and don't mind that it might take 
> > > us a while to get to it (Eclipse is not at the top of our priority 
> > > list at the moment :-(), we might be able to take a look sometime in 
> > > the coming months.  If you'd like more immediate action, however, you 
> > > might point the Eclipse folks to the bad app name and the NULL 
> > > children and perhaps recommend they use accerciser as a means to 
> > > start debugging the problem.
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > > Jose Vilmar Estacio de Souza wrote:
> > > > Hi Will,
> > > >
> > > > I'll try to open a bug in bugzilla site.
> > > >
> > > > is there something in special that must be pointed?
> > > > What evidences may I include? The erros (trace messages from orca 
> > > > are sufficient)?
> > > > Is it possible that the problems found can be caused by an old 
> > > > version of accessibility infra-structure?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > >
> > > > On 15-03-2009 19:57, Willie Walker wrote:
> > > > > Yech - yeah it looks like the accessible hierarchy Orca is getting 
> > > > > from Eclipse is screwed in some way.  This might be something that 
> > > > > needs to be taken to the Eclipse team since it seems to be out of 
> > > > > our hands.  :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > Will
> > > > >
> > > > > Jose Vilmar Estacio de Souza wrote:
> > > > > > OK, in attach a file with the the content after I press 
> > > > > > orca_key+ctrl+alt+pageDown.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I didn't find mentions to something like a status bar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another strange thing is the content shown to app.name.
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 14-03-2009 21:56, Willie Walker wrote:
> > > > > > > > After I got this error I included the same suggested code before 
> > > > > > > > line 1882.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >             if not child:
> > > > > > > >                 continue
> > > > > > > >             state = child.getState()
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No more erros. However I can not get the content of the status 
> > > > > > > > line.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bummer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It seems that eclipse doesn't provide a status bar. I remember 
> > > > > > > > that when I was a jaws user, I could access something like a 
> > > > > > > > status bar.
> > > > > > > > In this component I could read information about line and 
> > > > > > > > collumn position, and error messages.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It might have a status bar, but it looks as though something 
> > > > > > > might screwed up enough in the hierarchy so as to prevent Orca 
> > > > > > > from getting to it.  I don't have eclipse handy, so I can't debug 
> > > > > > > this. :-(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You *might* try pressing Insert+Ctrl+Alt+PageDown to invoke the 
> > > > > > > Orca debug command that dumps the hierarchy of the application to 
> > > > > > > the console where Orca is started.  You could search that for any 
> > > > > > > sign of a status bar.  This attempts to dump the complete 
> > > > > > > hierarchy, so it can be very verbose, though.  In addition, since 
> > > > > > > we might be dealing with a broken hierarchy in ecplise, the debug 
> > > > > > > code might end up running into that to.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Will
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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