Re: [orca-list] Orca and Acrobat Reader not cooperating

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi All:

Two quick comments:

1) Acroread has issues.  http://live.gnome.org/Orca/Acroread

2) Getting behind Evince accessibility might be better in the long run. 
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309015

I have it on my list to try to allocate some GNOME a11y $$$'s to the 
Evince accessibility task and will send out some feelers.

Will

Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi
> I've had this happen on occasion as well, but this is the first time 
> I've ever been able to reproduce it reliably. I'm not sure what to file 
> a bug against, orca? at-spi? Or is this particular issue a bug in 
> acrobat reader that is triggering something else? Also, how high should 
> I set orca's debug level to get the information nneeded? Setting it to 
> all, while it captures everything, yields a debug log of 248k just from 
> starting orca to starting acrobat reader and exiting it. I'd think that 
> might be a bit too much information :).
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2009, at 12:41, nolan wrote:
>
> > This doesn't help directly with your issue, but I have experienced 
> > this behavior with other applications, though I've been too lazy to 
> > set up orca's logging to help debug it, especially as I can't reliably 
> > duplicate it. If you can, though, I hope you file a bug report. :)
> >
> > Sometimes it seems like apps block all accessibility information. This 
> > isn't quite the "closing windows locks up the desktop" issue, because 
> > I can still use the desktop, and if I use my terminal hotkey, kill 
> > Orca and then usually restart Speech-dispatcher for good measure, I 
> > get speech back. I notice that it often seems to happen with Firefox, 
> > but I can't reliably duplicate it as you can.
> >
> >
> > On 01/29/2009 10:47 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> > > Hi List
> > > I'm experiencing this in both Ubuntu 8.10 and the 9.04 alpha. I've 
> > > tried both the packages from Adobe and those from the Medibuntu 
> > > repositories with the same result.
> > > When I launch Acrobat reader the first time, I can accept the license 
> > > agreement. When I do so, however, Orca no longer speaks. Relaunching 
> > > Orca doesn't help, and the only thing that does is killing the 
> > > Acrobat reader process. From then on, launching Acrobat reader 
> > > triggers this. I've had the screen looked at and can verify from my 
> > > system's behavior that nothing is locked, including Acrobat reader 
> > > itself. It seems almost as though Acrobat reader is somehow blocking 
> > > accessibility information from getting to Orca, though I'm not sure 
> > > if that's even possible. I can do nothing with Orca until the acrobat 
> > > reader process is killed, but my system operates normally in every 
> > > other way. One interesting fact, and no idea if it's relevant, but I 
> > > need to send a sigkill to the acroread process, simply using the kill 
> > > command is not enough. This is with Acrobat reader 8.1.3, is there 
> > > another version I should use? Or is something else happening? Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
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