Re: [orca-list] VI or Vim also how accessible is Lynx with Orca?

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

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As far as vi vs vim is concerned, I always liked vim because it has
that nice visual mode among other things but for editting, I always
seem to gravitate back to emacs.

Since you have the GUI already running, I say the same thing David
says below, why bother with a text browser, Firefox is verry good with
Orca these days and frankly, a console screen reader like Speakup or
Yasr would do a much better job than the terminal.  I think The
terminal could use some big improvements with Orca before I relied on
it like I do with Speakup.  My complaint with the Terminal and Orca is
while using an editor, the screen has to be refreshed quite often; I
see this with mutt and less when scrolling over pages of text.  I
generally find it much tighter to use Speakup with text editors in the
shell.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 04:31:46PM -0800, David Csercsics wrote:
> > Vi itself is commercial Software and not available for Linux. However,
> > there are a lot of Vi clones like nvi, Elvis or Vim, just to name a
> > few.Vim is a goot choice.
> This is no longer true as of 2002. See this link
> http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/
> > > 2. Is the text based browser Lynx usable with Orca?
> >
> > Lynx is usable with Orca more or less, but you will get a much better
> > user experience with a screenreader for the text console.If you want to
> > use lynx with Orca, I recommend starting lynx with the -show_cursor
> > switch, so lynx won't use an attribut cursor but the system cursor instead.
>
> Have a look at elinks as well. It's a text browser similar to lynx but
> it is updated more often and has rudimentary javascript support as well
> as tabbed browsing. But really if you're going to use a text browser
> they work better with a console screenreader and so much of the web is
> all scripty these days that you may as well use firefox especially since
> you have the GUI up already. Elinks is included with most distros but if you need the page to get the code 
> it is at:
> http://www.elinkus.or.cz/
> BTW, I use vim rather than vi but vi is everywhere so it is good to know
> its limitaitions as well. The busybox version of vi is on my router for
> example. But really there are a lot of vi clones and there are a lot
> of emacs variants as well. It's all very much personal preference. Play
> with stuff and see what you like. I use vim myself.
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