Re: [orca-list] Orca and flash content

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Thanks for the suggestions of alternatives, neither seem to work for the 
BBC iplayer (swfdec although being recognised as flashplayer didn't 
autostart when I go to listen from the programme page and still appears 
inaccessible, as for gnash, it wasn't seen to be there and I was 
requested to download flashplayer).

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi
> This, unfortunately, is mostly up to Adobe to implement and they've shown no desire to implement 
> accessibility to Flash on platforms other than Windows nor even to improve what's already there in Windows. 
> Given they only make a Linux version of Flash after the Windows and Mac releases, and they refuse to do any 
> accessibility for the Mac platform flashplayer, I wouldn't hold my breath for them to expose Flash content to 
> Firefox in Linux. Adobe are one of those companies that just do not give a hoot for accessibility.
> The other possibility is that swfdec or gnash mature and, since they're open source, could be modified to do 
> so. However, at the moment neither are really ready to handle most Flash-based sites very well. Still, if you 
> want to see any kind of Flash accessibility at all I'd start with either swfdec or gnash implementing it, as 
> Adobe doing so is about as likely as Microsoft putting a full screen reader into Windows.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2009, at 16:36, Michael Whapples wrote:
>
>    
> > Hello,
> > I've noticed this for some time but today it really got annoying for me so here I am asking the question. Is 
> > there any accessible way of using flash content in firefox?
> >
> > As an example to the above, let's use what really annoyed me today. On the BBC Iplayer 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer (which the BBC are too happy to state how accessible it is) all the content now 
> > is in flash streams. For basic listening I have found that I can start the stream by going to the programme's 
> > page and selecting the listen link on the page, but this requires extra navigation than it should (I should 
> > be able to go to the iplayer home page, choose radio stations, choose the station, the day and then the 
> > programme/episode and then activate a play button). OK, that is slightly inconvenient but today whilst 
> > listening to a stream I was interrupted and was unable to pause the stream, navigate back through the stream, 
> > etc and the only option seemed to be to continue until the end and start again and there was quite a lot left 
> > to listen too. Hardly accessible in my mind.
> >
> > I am using debian, so the browser is iceweasel 3.5.6 (I am not sure what firefox version that relates to) and 
> > I also have a package installed for the adobe flashplayer (I believe iceweasel is using flashplayer but I 
> > can't be certain, any way to check). Is there anything which can be done to make such flash content 
> > accessible?
> >
> > Michael Whapples
> > _______________________________________________
> > Orca-list mailing list
> > Orca-list gnome org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> >      
>     The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is 
> that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or 
> repair.
>   --Douglas Adams
>
>
>
>