Re: [orca-list] Orca and the shutdown/logout dialogues



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How might one figure this out? I'm personally using Arch Linux and I
believe an observation of similar behavior was done with a Debian
system.  I start gnome with startx from a native console.  I guess I
could begin by looking at what the startx command does; but if it is a
compiled program, then I wouldn't be sure where to look next without
litterally taring down the source code to gnome and its components and
that is verry daunting indeed.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 08:42:56AM +0000, Willie Walker wrote:
Hi All:

My memory on this is a little hazy, but I think it might have to do
with how gnome-session is started.  If I recall correctly (I might
very well be wrong), the logout dialogs are now presented by
gnome-session, so it needs to be started with accessibility enabled
and with knowledge of the  D-Bus session.

I unfortunately don't remember what was done to fix this for
OpenSolaris and Ubuntu, though.

Will

Steve Holmes wrote:
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I'm replying basically to get your comment to the list since your
message only came to me directly.  I don't have any further comment on
this right now.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:46:47AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi,
 Since many of us seem to be experienceing the same issue, I
wonder if we can do anything to help debug it? Perhaps there's a
tool of some kind we can use to monitor the kinds of objects
Orca is receiving?
 I speak from a standpoint of limited knowledge here.
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:46:48 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:


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Yes! This is the thing I was writing about several times in the past
couple weeks.  This is what I've been talking about.  This same
problem also aflicts the screen saver / lock feature.  Try locking the
screen and see what you get.  You'll get silence.  This used to work
for some time but after going with Arch and latest git builds, no
more.  I think when the logout/shutdown dialog starts talking again,
the screen lock will talk again too.  It is probably all realated.
I'm just trying to figure out why/how this feature stopped working.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 09:25:27AM +1000, Jason White wrote:
Alastair Irving <alastair irving sjc ox ac uk> wrote:
Yes, I get the same thing, also using arch.  I haven't bothered
looking into it as its simpler just to shutdown from a terminal.
the problem also occurs if you try to log out from a Gnome session after
starting it with startx from a console. Once logged out, you are returned to
the console from which X was invoked.

This used to work fine prior to the upgrade to Gnome 2.26. I am using Gnome as
packaged by Debian.

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The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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