Re: [orca-list] Orca and the shutdown/logout dialogues

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

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How might one figure this out? I'm personally using Arch Linux and I
believe an observation of similar behavior was done with a Debian
system.  I start gnome with startx from a native console.  I guess I
could begin by looking at what the startx command does; but if it is a
compiled program, then I wouldn't be sure where to look next without
litterally taring down the source code to gnome and its components and
that is verry daunting indeed.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 08:42:56AM +0000, Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> My memory on this is a little hazy, but I think it might have to do
> with how gnome-session is started.  If I recall correctly (I might
> very well be wrong), the logout dialogs are now presented by
> gnome-session, so it needs to be started with accessibility enabled
> and with knowledge of the  D-Bus session.
>
> I unfortunately don't remember what was done to fix this for
> OpenSolaris and Ubuntu, though.
>
> Will
>
> Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > I'm replying basically to get your comment to the list since your
> > message only came to me directly.  I don't have any further comment on
> > this right now.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:46:47AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >  Since many of us seem to be experienceing the same issue, I
> > > wonder if we can do anything to help debug it? Perhaps there's a
> > > tool of some kind we can use to monitor the kinds of objects
> > > Orca is receiving?
> > >  I speak from a standpoint of limited knowledge here.
> > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:46:48 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > >
> > >
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> > > > Yes! This is the thing I was writing about several times in the past
> > > > couple weeks.  This is what I've been talking about.  This same
> > > > problem also aflicts the screen saver / lock feature.  Try locking the
> > > > screen and see what you get.  You'll get silence.  This used to work
> > > > for some time but after going with Arch and latest git builds, no
> > > > more.  I think when the logout/shutdown dialog starts talking again,
> > > > the screen lock will talk again too.  It is probably all realated.
> > > > I'm just trying to figure out why/how this feature stopped working.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 09:25:27AM +1000, Jason White wrote:
> > > > > Alastair Irving <alastair irving sjc ox ac uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Yes, I get the same thing, also using arch.  I haven't bothered
> > > > > > looking into it as its simpler just to shutdown from a terminal.
> > > > > the problem also occurs if you try to log out from a Gnome session after
> > > > > starting it with startx from a console. Once logged out, you are returned to
> > > > > the console from which X was invoked.
> > > > >
> > > > > This used to work fine prior to the upgrade to Gnome 2.26. I am using Gnome as
> > > > > packaged by Debian.
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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> > The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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> Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
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