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Re: [orca-list] Problems with speech in Intrepid

To be honest I don't know why this option exists. I found no documentation about. 

David E. Price wrote:

Hi,
Yes, it was checked, so I unchecked it. I've restarted and have only one voice. I don't remember ever having altered that setting with any previous version of Ubuntu, so I guess that this is what I get for not rereading the Configuration/Use wiki page. 

Hopefully, this problem is solved.  If not, I'll let everyone know... ;-)

Thanks!

dave


On 09/19/2008 02:19 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:

Hi David,
In orca's preference there is an option to allow orca run after login. I don't remember exactly in which page and I'm not running orca now. 
Try to find this option  and if it is checked uncheck it.

Restart gnome by pressing ctrl+alt+BackSpace


David E. Price wrote:

Hi, Will,

You called it correctly:

]0;deprice plymouth: ~deprice plymouth:~$ whereis orca
orca: /usr/local/bin/orca
]0;deprice plymouth: ~deprice plymouth:~$ ps -elf |grep orca
0 S deprice 5821 1 0 80 0 - 969 wait 07:53 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/orca 1 S deprice 5828 5821 0 80 0 - 970 wait 07:53 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/orca 0 S deprice 5836 5648 0 80 0 - 969 wait 07:53 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/orca 1 S deprice 5845 5836 0 80 0 - 971 wait 07:53 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/orca 0 R deprice 5885 5828 1 80 0 - 9484 - 07:53 ? 00:03:40 /usr/bin/python -c import orca.orca; orca.orca.main() 0 S deprice 5886 5845 1 80 0 - 9321 select 07:53 ? 00:03:26 /usr/bin/python -c import orca.orca; orca.orca.main() 0 S deprice 21121 21067 0 80 0 - 810 pipe_w 13:28 pts/2 00:00:00 grep orca
The odd thing here is that the second and third invocations of Orca occurred while the machine was idle. When I started working on the machine this morning, Orca was performing well except for the Cepstral freezes (I'll file a bug on this issue over the weekend). I used apt-get to update and upgrade, then walked away from the machine because I had several appointments. When I returned to it just a few minutes ago, its schizophrenic personality was back. If you can make a guess from the above output, or suggest what to do to determine the nature of the problem, I would greatly appreciate it. I'm going to build Orca from latest trunk and see if that makes the machine more usable... OK, it is a dream, but I have no idea why Orca would be invoked multiple times. :-) 

Thanks,

dave


On 09/19/2008 07:58 AM, Willie Walker wrote:
If they are identical, then this would be strange. If one is the shell script to launch orca and the other is the python process, then this is OK. 

Hope this helps!

Will

José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:

Hi Will,
Looking at the system processes I found two processes called orca. Is this ok? 

Willie Walker wrote:

Hi David:
These are very strange problems. It sounds almost as though you have two orca's running. If you look at the system processes, do you notice anything strange? 

Will

David E. Price wrote:

Hi,
I'm having lots of problems with speech in Intrepid. I've been spending the last several days of non-work time trying to sort out these problems. These problems occur with both Cepstral and eSpeak. These problems include:
- Orca often repeats everything that it says. This behavior seems to be based on the size of the block of text sent to the synthesizer. For instance, if I'm typing words, I will hear each word echoed. However, if I am in gnome-terminal and I type "ls", I hear the entire listing then hear the entire listing a second time. This is dependent on the Orca start--if Orca starts and everything is repeated, the behavior will continue until I quit Orca; if Orca starts and there is no repetition initially, the repetitions will not occur during that session. An interesting side effect of this problem is that, when it is occurring, I can't quit Orca using the Quit Orca dialog (Orca_modifier-q)--I need to use the command line "Orca -q" to quit. Right now, the repetition behavior seems to be occurring about 60-70% of the time.
- If I use the Orca Preferences dialog to change the speech synthesizer, I often end up with both synthesizers speaking after activating either the Apply or OK buttons. (I've yet to capture this in a debug log... whenever I'm capturing the debug log, the problem doesn't occur. I'll try a few more times to get this recorded.) 

- When I log off, I hear
the reset strings sent out through the emacspeak speech server to my DECTalk Express (not being used by Orca), then the current voice (or both voices) will say the first question of the text setup. These two messages are spoken in parallel (given that they are using two or three different synthesizers), but the emacspeak messages always start first.
The two things that I have left to try are to see if I can get the emacspeak speech server running under Orca, then see if these behaviors persist. If they do not, then I will rebuild gnome-speech from source. 

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks,

dave
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