Re: [orca-list] Vibuntu the most accessible Ubuntu Linux live cd for theVisually Impaired EVA III

[Samuel Thibault <samuel thibault ens-lyon org>]

luke Davis, le Mon 15 Dec 2008 01:44:35 -0500, a écrit :
> Ubuntu may even recognize the value in adding at least a beeping 
> bootloader, and a less tricky installation process for disabled users.  

Again, please do not take things wrong.  Ubuntu does _not_ have any
opinion of what accessibility features should be enabled.  The problem
is not of willness, but of manpower.  See
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+bug/180561
for instance, which I filed some time ago about the precise feature you
are asking for.  Luke didn't say he doesn't recognize the value.  He
says he depends on somebody fixing sound support in gfxboot.

> That would go a long way to eliminating the need for this project, I 
> think, and is probably the way I would rather see things go.

I definitely see it this way, yes.  Instead of duplicating the work of
mastering a CD, it'd be better to just fix Ubuntu itself.  Yes, that
means talking with developers to get things included, but once it's
there, it's for good (if you provide a way to test it).

> But so what?  Are we not all about offering alternatives and choices?  Too 
> many choices can be a bad thing.

The problem is sustainability of the alternative.

> "Put this CD in, boot it up, and follow the spoken or brailled or
> magnified instructions", is not usually the response given to such
> questions.

When you have a USB braille device, it is now in Debian.  Because I took
the time to have things for it integrated upstream.

Samuel