Re: [orca-list] Bug: preferences-Speech tab-shortcuts (English)

[Steve Holmes <steve holmesgrown com>]

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I haven't gone over this dialog thuroughly but consistency is
important and shortcuts should perform their actions in a consistent
manner.

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 02:20:37PM -0600, David E. Price wrote:
> Hi, 
>
> Attila's posting on shortcuts reminded me of what I consider to be a bug in the Orca Preferences window 
> under the Speech tab. I don't know if this is a problem in other languages, but in English there are two 
> shortcuts using the letter `a' (Punctuation set to all and the Apply button), two shortcuts using the 
> letter `o' (punctuation set to some and the OK button), and two shortcuts using `c' (table row speech to 
> current cell and the Cancel button). The reason I believe this to be a bug is that the shortcuts do not 
> activate the relevant controls--focus is simply moved to these controls. In the case of the button 
> controls, the normal behavior is to activate the button. For instance, the standard shortcut behavior is 
> used for the Help button (Alt-h activates the help button). For the remaining buttons, focus is merely 
> moved to the Apply, Cancel and OK buttons without activating them. Thus, the shortcuts are not even 
> standardized in their behavior within this one page.
>
> Similarly, there is also inconsistent behavior for radio buttons as a result of these dual shortcuts. If 
> Alt-a is pressed, focus is moved to the Punctuation: all radio button, but it is not activated.  However, 
> if you press Alt-f, focus is moved to the Verbosity: brief radio button and it is activated.
>
> These implementation decisions appear to lead to two speech feedback problems, as well. Assume a state 
> where Punctuation:some is selected.  Pressing Alt-a moves focus to Punctuation:all and speech feedback 
> reports "Punctuation level panel all not selected radio button", and the radio button is not activated.  
> However, pressing spacebar to activate the control does not provide feedback indicating that the state of 
> the control has been changed to selected.  The user either has to press the "where am I" key or tab away 
> and back to determine that the state has been changed.
>
> Alternatively, the initial state has Verbosity:verbose selected. Pressing Alt-f provides the feedback 
> "Verbosity panel brief not selected radio button".  However, pressing Alt-f activated the control, and the 
> control is now selected, even though the speech feedback didn't indicate this. Again, the only ways to 
> determine the changes are to use "where am I" or tab away and back.
>
> I was just playing with these controls and determined that the functionality of the shortcuts are not even 
> consistent within a single group of radio buttons.  Alt-a does not activate punctuation:all, but Alt-m does 
> activate Punctuation:some.
>
> I recognize that these decisions result from having too many controls wanting to use the same letters for 
> shortcuts. However, I believe that having inconsistent behavior for controls within any dialog box is a 
> poor interface decision which will only lead to confusion.  Additionally, I believe that to stray from the 
> standard shortcut behavior for controls is also a poor decision, again leading to confusion. 
>
> My suggestion would be to create an additional page in the Orca Preferences dialog box and move many of the 
> controls in the speech page to this new page, hopefully making letter redundancy no longer a problem.  
> Perhaps title the new page "Reading" or something similar. 
>
> How does everyone else feel about this?
>
> dave 

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