Re: [orca-list] orca and java applications

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
I think those settings are all correct and should allow orca to use the
java access bridge.

I am less suspicious of your at-spi version, its certainly not too old
as java access bridge 1.6.0 states in the README file that it is for
at-spi version 1.4.7. Having a look at the dates of the files on the
gnome ftp server, java-access-bridge 1.6.0 seems to be close to at-spi
1.7.11 (the JAB is dated Jul 2006 and at-spi is Aug 2006).

I am now thinking how to test whether the java access bridge is being
actually being loaded. I am wondering whether using the logger for java
access bridge would work here (unfortunately I don't know what this is
called so can't say what you would need to put in the logging.properties
file, but I can hunt this out if nobody can give another solution or the
answer first).

Also to ckheck that it is not something simple, you aren't running the
java applications as a different user (eg. from inside a su or sudo)? If
you are this will need a bit more in the .orbitrc file.

Michael Whapples
On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 15:42 -0700, Donald Raikes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I agree it is easy to mess up the little stuff especially when it comes to java :)
>
> Here is what I have discovered about my environment:
> My environment settings: 
> .orbitrc file contents:
> ORBIIOPIPv4=1
>
> JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_15
> location of java programi (based on which command):
> /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_15/bin/java
>
> java-access-bridge files (using find /usr/java): 
> /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_15/jre/lib/accessibility.properties
> /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_15/jre/lib/ext/gnome-java-bridge.jar
>
> Any obvious things wrong, I would aprpeciate knowing.
>
> Once again, it may also be the version of at-spi I am using (1.7.11-2.fc6) my biggest suspect for the 
> problem.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Whapples [mailto:mwhapples aim com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:49 PM
> To: Donald Raikes
> Cc: Willie Walker; orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and java applications
>
>
> Hello,
> This sounds very odd. First of to check that jconsole really is
> accessible I have tried loading it on my system, and it is accessible.
> Let's ensure that even the very basic things are done, it might seem a
> bit much and unnecessary but it is surprising how easy it is to forget
> something and then wonder why it doesn't work (I have done that when
> upgrading JDKs on my system). Make sure that you are really using the
> JDK you think you are, and that the java environment variables are set
> correct. Also are you sure that the .orbitrc file is correct, this is
> very important for making things accessible, including java. Also if you
> are using the java application as a different user (eg. when running
> something using sudo to perform tasks requiring root access) you will
> need to ensure the options needed for that are also set in the
> appropriate .orbitrc files. Also I am not sure how to do this, but if it
> is possible to confirm whether the access bridge is loading may help
> track down your problem.
>
>
> On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 14:17 -0700, Donald Raikes wrote:
> > Willie,
> >
> > I followed the instructions on the gnomelive page, except for the fact that I used sun jdk 1.5.0_15 
> > because I had already downloaded the rpm.bin file for that, and JDeveloper works best on jdk 1.5 not 1.6.
> >
> > When I try to access the java console from the system/prefferences menu it still says it is inaccessible.
> >
> > I will admit I am running an old version of at-spi and atk because they are what ships with enterprise 
> > linux.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Walker Sun COM [mailto:William Walker Sun COM]On Behalf Of
> > Willie Walker
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:41 AM
> > To: Donald Raikes
> > Cc: orca-list gnome org
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and java applications
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Donald:
> >
> > Java a11y support on AT-SPI is still a little dicey right now, but it
> > is something we're focusing on for GNOME 2.24.  If you still want to
> > experiment, though, there's more information on the Java Access Bridge
> > for GNOME here: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/JABG
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Will
> >
> > On Mar 27, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am wondering what the level of support is in orca for runnig java
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > My setup:
> > > Oracle Enterprise linux (kernel 2.6.18-53.1.14.0)
> > > jdk: 1.5.0_15
> > > orca: 2.20.3 (compiled from tarball)
> > > java-access-bridge: 1.6.0 (compiled and symlinked into the jre as
> > > follows:
> > > gnome-access-bridge.jar and JNav.jar symlinked into
> > > /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_15/jre/lib/ext
> > > accessibility.properties symlinked to /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_15/jre/lib
> > >
> > > When I try to run a java application orca says the screen is
> > > inaccessible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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