Re: [orca-list] Want your opinion on the removal of "Close" buttons on some dialog windows

[Jon <j orcauser googlemail com>]

Hi,

I dont mind either way, i am totally blind and dont tend to tab around 
to find the close button, unless i wanted to make sure that the settings 
weren't saved. alt+f4 is well known so I dont think there will be a 
problem there.

The question becomes, do we have save button for when we wish to confirm 
our preferences? and in that case wouldn't it look odd graphically to 
have a save but not a close button? I guess if the close button is in 
the top right then it is obvious.

Gnome-volume-control doesn't have a save or close button, yet when 
alt+f4 is pressed the values of volume bars are saved.

I guess for people using magnifiers it is advantagious to minimize 
clutter on the screen, and once they know that top right will close, 
then that is straight forward. (my sight use to be better)

regarding the comment made about alerts, i still don't see why alt+f4 
cant be used.

In what instance would alt+f4 be confusing? I have always considered it 
to be synonymous with close-without-save

Intresting to hear other peoples views about this.

-Jon

On Tue 06/11/2007 at 11:19:25, Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Members of the GNOME team are considering removing the "Close" buttons 
> on many dialogs in GNOME.  For example, almost all of the GNOME 
> Preferences windows -- Appearance Preferences, Keyboard Preferences, AT 
> Preferences, etc. -- have this "Close" button.
>
> The discussion on this subject is here:
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-themes-list/2007-November/msg00000.html
>
> "I wanted to investigate if we could get rid of all our Close-buttons in 
> some windows, since every window have a big close button in the top 
> right corner anyway. (therefore less clutter) A big stopper for this was 
> apparently the highcontrast themes, where the close button in the corner 
> hit target is pretty small apparently."
>
> If the "Close" button were removed, you'd have to remember to press 
> Alt+F4 (or Alt+Space and then navigate to the menu item) to close a 
> window.  Escape may also work.  I personally think this might be too 
> much to remember (I like "Close" buttons), and can also leave you 
> wondering if any changes you made in the window were saved or lost as a 
> result of pressing Alt+F4.
>
> Anyhow, your thoughts on this would be appreciated.  If you're strongly 
> for or against the idea, please provide a constructive comment for why.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Will
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