[orca-list] Resp.: Incredibly frustrated!

["Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt lists gmail com>]

Let me make a suggestion.
If you're in trouble using the gui to do a given task on linux then
search the web to do it via console. As everything else in linux you
will need to know something about your hardware, edit some files and
you are ready to go. You need to configure wireless on ubuntu ... so
ask in the phoruns something like this: "Hello folks, I need to
configure my wireless on ubuntu, but I can not use the gui tools as I
am blind and the screen reader seen to not read the applets correctly.
How could I do it through console?". I am sure someone will help you
quickly. Also try searching the web with your machine model plus
wireless plus ubuntu and see what you get. The only reazon I don't
tell you how to do this is that I don't know, I am a slackware user
and I do use slackware mainly because everything you need to do you
quickly can do via the best friend of any linux user, the pico editor
and the console. As for paying for quick support I don't see any
problem, as the comunity is free to do whatever they want ... if you
ask for urgent help it is likely that you won't be helped because
people have many things to do and they will help you when they have
time or when they ahve researched the topic if you did not do it. If
you pay then one can re setup their priorities and help you faster,
but this is a private question and has not anything to do with free or
open source software philosophy.
Restricting freedom or asking money for a peace of software that can
help many people around the planet is one thing, supporting it for
free and fast is another prety different thing. In fact many distros
distribute the linux for free (they can not ask money for it) but have
paid support plans and this is not wrong anyway.
Marlon

2007/7/17, Chris Gilland <clgilland07 earthlink net>:
> OK, guys, I use my laptop for business, and so, this is kind of an ergent
> thing that I need to get fixed.  The one person who's name I won't mention
> who may could help me with this has told me he'd help for $15 an hour.  Well
> exucse me, $15 an hour to me anyway, just seems a bit expensive for an open
> source OS.  Any way, enough venting, let me get to my question.  OK, I am
> running at this point on my laptop Feisty 7.04.  I am also running Orca,
> quite obviously.  OK, well, if I plug an ethernet cable in to my laptop, I
> can get online perfectly, but, I have looked in the top and the bottom
> pannels and do not see Network Manager there at all.  I went into
> applications/add remove, and network manager deffinently is checked.  So, it
> is apparently installed.  I however can't find it in my pannel anywhere.  I
> have looked and looked.  It just simply put, isn't there.  I went online and
> tried desperetly using my windows box to find an installer for network
> manager but had no luck I even checked the apt repositories.  I even went
> into /etc/apt/sources.list and added the multiverse repository.  I also with
> a hard wired internet connection via eithernet cable went to a terminal and
> did:
>
> sudo apt-get update
>
> This is incredibly weird.  I even tried downloading and installing the
> debian package using gdebi of gtkwifi
>
> Yeah, right.  that worked very well will Orca.  Not?  I'm just totally
> confused.  I've waisted almost half a day just trying to figure this dad
> blamed thing about wireless out.  I'd not think it should take that long to
> configure a wireless connection.  Then, of corse, if I go to
> system/administration/networks, then Orca absol;utely refuses to speak.
> Again, this guy I mentioned above said there is a work around but he wants
> to be paid to help me fix it.  I frankly thought that was kind a silly
> myself.  I know he runs a business, but, this is Ubuntu we're talking here.
> Doesn't our mission state that we are to help each other, not for money, not
> for fame, not for anything jsut help.  I'm not asking you all to hold my
> hand while we cross the street, sota speak, but can someone please just
> direct me on what things to do or check or where online to read up?  I've
> looked on the Orca wiki forums, and have even looked on the Ubuntu forums
> with no luck.  I just know if I cannot get this thing up on wifi then most
> likely I'm not do to frustration, but more due to me being required to have
> an inte3rnet connection with my notebook, I may have to go back to Win XP
> Home, which I r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'really! don't wanna do!
>
> Please please can someone help.  If you think it would be easier just to
> call me and walk me through it... then, it's...
>
> 704-899-5290
>
> Please someone help.  I'm totally outta suggestions to myself.
>
>
> Chris.
>
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