Re: Orca FW: Is the Update-manager accessible with ?

[Michael Vogt <mvo ubuntu com>]

On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 10:01:01PM +0100, Henrik Omma wrote:
> Hi,
Hi,
 
> The password screen should be OK once the 'Password dialogues as
> floating windows' box is checked in assistive technologies settings.
>
> As for Update Manager itself, I'm forwarding this to Michael who is
> responsible for Update manager in Ubuntu. Can we fix this? :)

I just debugged this with Hendrik and it seems like the problem is
that update-manager runs the actual upgrade as root. My understanding
is that this is something that at-spi currently does not support
(sharing information between apps runing as different users).
 
> Henrik
Michael

> On 1/22/07, Ian Pascoe <softy lofty ilp btinternet com> wrote:
> > Hi Hermann
> >
> > Once you get pass the password screen, it starts quite accessable.
> >
> > However, once you've selected the Check button to see if there are any
> > updates waiting, and then select to do the update accessability gradually
> > disappears.
> >
> > What is slightly more concerning is that whilst it is performing the update
> > Orca doesn't respond at all - I presume this is a "safety feature" in case
> > one of the updates is to Orca or a dependancy?    Once completed,
> > accessability returns to the desktop, but not fully to the Update Manager.
> >
> > I highlighted this on the Ubuntu list at the beginning of the month, and
> > there have been a couple of other postings about other system applications
> > that eithre have no accessability or very little apparently built in.
> >
> > If I understand the methodology correctly, when a control gets focus it
> > needs to pass it's information to it's host application, and that
> > application in turn passes the information to AT-SPI and thence into Orca.
> >
> > I have been pondering on this for some time.  It would seem logical that 
> > the
> > Gnome developers use a common language to develop the Gnome apps, so how
> > difficult would it be to have a common library so that the app developers
> > can pick their controls with the necessary AT-SPI stuff already coded in,
> > and have the application base modules already have the AT-SPI interface
> > pre-built in?  This would mean that any GUI application built would
> > instantly have the necessary interfaces in it, and we as a community
> > wouldn't struggle so much.
> >
> > sorry to go away from your original question Herman<smile>
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org]On
> > Behalf Of hermann
> > Sent: 22 January 2007 15:04
> > To: orca-list gnome org
> > Subject: Orca Is the Update-manager accessible with ?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I tried to update my system with the update-manager in
> > system/administration.
> > When you check for new updates, you have to enter your password (which
> > one, user or root?)
> > When I enter the user-password, the system seems to freeze, and only
> > logging out and in again brings it back.
> > Can the update-manager be used with Orca at all?
> > Regards
> > Hermann
> >
> >
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