Re: [orca-list] Orca and Firefox 3 - carret control



Hi.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 05:56:29PM -0500, Rich Caloggero wrote:


Seems that comboboxes should work as follows:
* if you arrow to them, they should stay collapsed till you press space
* if you tab into them, they should open by default
* an opened combobox can be collapsed with escape
* if its collapsed then arrows just move you away from it onto other 
objects

This begs the question though: how should text boxes be handled? Its kind 
of a pain to have to escape from them even if your just reading through a 
document. Seems to me that the only control that needs this special 
handling is the textarea, since single line text files can be bypassed 
with up/down arrows. Perhaps the textarea could require enter to be 
pressed before it can be edited; and require an escape to stop editing. 
When not in edit mode, arrows just move past it, and read the contents if 
there are any.


Why not leave the keystroke as space instead of enter? This way, things are just
a little more standard i.e., spacebar is used to expand/collapse objects such as
combo boxes, and the entering and leaving of a textarea. Just my $0.02.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina rednote net>
To: "Joanmarie Diggs" <joanmarie diggs gmail com>
Cc: <oedipus hicom net>; "orca-list" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Performance enhancements for Firefox 3


Hi, Joanmarie:

Joanmarie Diggs writes:
..., is the confusion between down-arrow in a combo-box and down-arrow
for content navigation on the agenda for enhancement? Is that an FF
issue? Do I need to explain myself more on this point?

I could use some more explanation I'm afraid.  If you're not in a combo
box, down arrow moves you from line to line.  If you are in a combo box,
down arrow moves you to the next item in the combo box.  That's a
Firefox thang.

The problem occurs, imho, when you down-arrow through text, but land
inside a combo without realizing it. Subsequent down-arrows alter the
combobox setting, rather than taking you to subsequent lines. Yes, it's
very possible to land in, and change the value of a combo without
realizing it.

We will be adding commands to move to the next object
which should be useful for escaping combo boxes.  However right now, if
you are on a collapsed combo box, left and right should move you off of
it.  You can also tab away from them.

So.... What should we be doing differently?  If it's a bug, then I'll
see about getting it fixed soon. (Agency holiday shutdown means more
Orca time next week.  Woo hoo!)  If it's a user interaction change, then
I will leave that to Mike Pedersen to discuss and "spec out."


Suggest mimicing the behavior in applications where one first presses
spacebar to activate the combobox change. That would make Orca more
consistent, imho.

But, we should probably ask community opinion on this. I've been caught
by this one so much, I suspect I'm not the only one has stumbled into
the problem. Yes, I understand how to undo, etc., but an ounce of
prevention, especially if it brings Orca into more consistent behavior,
is probably worthy of consideration. I'm not on the FF list, but will
forward this to someone who is and can push to that discussion as well.

Thanks, Joanmarie.

Janina



Thanks!
--Joanie

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