Hi. On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 05:56:29PM -0500, Rich Caloggero wrote:
Seems that comboboxes should work as follows: * if you arrow to them, they should stay collapsed till you press space * if you tab into them, they should open by default * an opened combobox can be collapsed with escape * if its collapsed then arrows just move you away from it onto other objects This begs the question though: how should text boxes be handled? Its kind of a pain to have to escape from them even if your just reading through a document. Seems to me that the only control that needs this special handling is the textarea, since single line text files can be bypassed with up/down arrows. Perhaps the textarea could require enter to be pressed before it can be edited; and require an escape to stop editing. When not in edit mode, arrows just move past it, and read the contents if there are any.
Why not leave the keystroke as space instead of enter? This way, things are just a little more standard i.e., spacebar is used to expand/collapse objects such as combo boxes, and the entering and leaving of a textarea. Just my $0.02.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina rednote net> To: "Joanmarie Diggs" <joanmarie diggs gmail com> Cc: <oedipus hicom net>; "orca-list" <orca-list gnome org> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [orca-list] Performance enhancements for Firefox 3Hi, Joanmarie: Joanmarie Diggs writes:..., is the confusion between down-arrow in a combo-box and down-arrow for content navigation on the agenda for enhancement? Is that an FF issue? Do I need to explain myself more on this point?I could use some more explanation I'm afraid. If you're not in a combo box, down arrow moves you from line to line. If you are in a combo box, down arrow moves you to the next item in the combo box. That's a Firefox thang.The problem occurs, imho, when you down-arrow through text, but land inside a combo without realizing it. Subsequent down-arrows alter the combobox setting, rather than taking you to subsequent lines. Yes, it's very possible to land in, and change the value of a combo without realizing it.We will be adding commands to move to the next object which should be useful for escaping combo boxes. However right now, if you are on a collapsed combo box, left and right should move you off of it. You can also tab away from them. So.... What should we be doing differently? If it's a bug, then I'll see about getting it fixed soon. (Agency holiday shutdown means more Orca time next week. Woo hoo!) If it's a user interaction change, then I will leave that to Mike Pedersen to discuss and "spec out."Suggest mimicing the behavior in applications where one first presses spacebar to activate the combobox change. That would make Orca more consistent, imho. But, we should probably ask community opinion on this. I've been caught by this one so much, I suspect I'm not the only one has stumbled into the problem. Yes, I understand how to undo, etc., but an ounce of prevention, especially if it brings Orca into more consistent behavior, is probably worthy of consideration. I'm not on the FF list, but will forward this to someone who is and can push to that discussion as well. Thanks, Joanmarie. JaninaThanks! --Joanie-- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina a11y org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina a11y org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org _______________________________________________ Orca-list mailing list Orca-list gnome org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca_______________________________________________ Orca-list mailing list Orca-list gnome org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca
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